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Mario Maric

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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2012, 12:54:38 am »

Not to discourage. 2K won't get you much for what you need.
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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2012, 01:44:27 am »

Buy a used Yamaha 16-input mixer ($300 or less), a QSC GX-7, and save up for a better set of speakers (maybe a used set of Yamaha S215 or similar). $2k won't get everything you need, but it will get you started IF you shop carefully. Don't expect anything that will get you a big full sound, especially for over 300+ people.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/yamaha-mg166cx-16-channel-mixer-with-compression-and-effects
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/qsc-gx7-stereo-power-amplifier
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/yamaha-s215v-club-series-v-speaker
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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 06:48:41 am »

We could stand around and tak the piss out of your budget all day but here is something helpful. Both are double your budget but they give you some idea of what to be looking for. Check you're local craigs lists and the like for similar deals.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Professional-P-A-System-gig-ready-small-to-large-venues-/120921851225?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c27810559#ht_694wt_1188

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-Gig-ready-PA-System-for-small-to-medium-venues-/140758013063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c5d4d487#ht_520wt_955

Both systems are only good for like 300 people ish and sound pretty average. To get you're 600 audience covered you're going to need something like $10k atleast-
SRX728 x 2 - $2500
SRX722 x 2 -$3000
2 x QSC PLX3602 (subs) - $2500
2 x QSC RMX2450 (tops) - $1200
1 x A&H MixWiz 16:2 - $900
16:4 snake - $400

10k ish
« Last Edit: May 29, 2012, 08:27:00 am by Chris Chambers »
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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 07:38:15 am »

2 Yorkville Performance Series Y115
1 Behringer pmp 2000
3 vocal 58's
2 vocal wireless 58's
1 keyboard direct through key amp
1 guitar through sm57
1 bass guitar direct via bass amp
1 sm57 on bass drum (don't judge its what we have)

Monitor system is all set that's something we don't need covered.

Some ideas

Mixer - Mix Wiz (600-650 used)
Tops -  Pair of Yamaha SV115 speakers ($379 ea used or probably find a pair used for 400)
Tops amp - Get an amp to run them.  Budget 3-400 for that.  Buy used again.
cables - buy what you need if you don't have them.

You'll have some money left over.  Sock it away and start saving for subs and an amp. 
The above will do more than what you had for now.

Don't cheap out on your subs when you buy.  Yorkville LS808 or larger.  (or LS808P)
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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2012, 08:25:22 am »

Sounds like he needs to take the money & hire someone with a decent system each time they play out.....
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Re: making a PURCHASE
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2012, 08:38:58 am »

  Hello,

   There are some truths that cannot be ignored...

   You cannot get more energy out than you've put in.
   You don't get something out of nothing
   There is no magic "fix" in Audio, either the magic is already there, or, there's no magic.
   People will not respect you, if you do not respect yourself.
   $ 2000.  will not buy you a speaker & Sub system capable of providing fidelity for 1000 people.

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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2012, 08:42:27 pm »

Thanks everyone, we are going with a couple of k12's and a yamaha mg124cx for now and adding subs down the road.  We decided to get something we can build on and not something we will have to replace.  For the rooms we play, that will do nicely.  We are not looking to put anyone on their asses. 
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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 12:22:50 pm »

Thanks everyone, we are going with a couple of k12's and a yamaha mg124cx for now and adding subs down the road.  We decided to get something we can build on and not something we will have to replace.  For the rooms we play, that will do nicely.  We are not looking to put anyone on their asses.
While I'm not a big fan of the MG series desks, it will do the job.  Personally, I'd be looking at a used MixWiz.  The K12's are really nice sounding (especially for plastic boxes).  You're on the right path.  Too many people make the mistake of buying junk (thinking they're saving money).  Then they end up buying everything all over again later.  Enjoy the ride.

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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2012, 01:21:55 pm »

I like the previous suggestion of used HPR122s vs K12s. I have K12s and like them but the used HPRs will cost less and do just fine.

I have to have you ask yourself "Do the guitar and other instruments HAVE to go through the PA?".
Most guitar amps go louder than most lower end PAs. Have the guitar player learn how to set his volume appropriately.
The biggest expense you may face is tops and subs and amps that will make a big kick drum sound. Decide on priorities!!!

Get the band to sound good without a PA. Then make the PA get the vocals to sound real good. Now make some money for the next step.

The stuff you have is not so much POS but is simply the bottom of the line and you are simply exceeding it's design limits.
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Re: making a pruchase
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2012, 01:36:44 pm »

While I'm not a big fan of the MG series desks, it will do the job.  Personally, I'd be looking at a used MixWiz.  The K12's are really nice sounding (especially for plastic boxes).  You're on the right path.  Too many people make the mistake of buying junk (thinking they're saving money).  Then they end up buying everything all over again later.  Enjoy the ride.

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