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drew gandy

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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2012, 01:45:17 pm »

I've always wanted something like that too. I just found a box called the Cloud Lifter that does just that - 25db of gain - but only for dynamic mics. It's powered by phantom, but doesn't power condenser mics. I just made an inquiry about a version that could power condenser mics...

http://cloudmicrophones.com/products/

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I've been curious about using the CAD approach where there is a battery in the [remote] preamp that is "trickle charged" by the phantom from the [non remote] preamp and allows enough reserve to power the [remote] preamp and provide phantom for the mic. 

Given that the market is so small for such a device, it wouldn't be especially cheap. 
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2012, 11:50:10 am »

I've always wanted something like that too. I just found a box called the Cloud Lifter that does just that - 25db of gain - but only for dynamic mics. It's powered by phantom, but doesn't power condenser mics. I just made an inquiry about a version that could power condenser mics...

http://cloudmicrophones.com/products/

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I found this:

http://tritonaudio.com/index.php?option=com_simpleshop&Itemid=30&cmd=product&product=21&catName=Pro%20Audio

Similar to the cloud lifter.  I have one of their other ones that I use for ribbon mics occasionally.  I've been pleased with the results.  I may order one of these to try out.
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2012, 08:30:36 pm »

I found this:

http://tritonaudio.com/index.php?option=com_simpleshop&Itemid=30&cmd=product&product=21&catName=Pro%20Audio

Similar to the cloud lifter.  I have one of their other ones that I use for ribbon mics occasionally.  I've been pleased with the results.  I may order one of these to try out.

Oooohhh... nice find! Here's a link to a US dealer of the 18db version:

http://www.zenproaudio.com/tritonaudiofetheadphantom.aspx

Definitely gonna have to try these out sometime.
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 01:14:43 pm »

I got to hear these on a show not too long ago and was very impressed.  Very good at controlling transients and simple to use.

http://www.rdlnet.com/pdf/2801_highres.pdf

Also demoed one of these and it works as advertised:

http://www.yamahacommercialaudiosystems.com/product_detail.php?prodID=1130

Combining the two has great results.
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2012, 01:58:27 pm »

I got to hear these on a show not too long ago and was very impressed.  Very good at controlling transients and simple to use.

http://www.rdlnet.com/pdf/2801_highres.pdf

Also demoed one of these and it works as advertised:

http://www.yamahacommercialaudiosystems.com/product_detail.php?prodID=1130

Combining the two has great results.

Shane, I saw the Portico unit mentioned elsewhere but there were no reviews at that time.  I see the price around $1800.  Is it worth it?

The RDL unit is $150, and appears to be something I'd like to carry in my Pelican case for those pesky political speaking gigs so popular this year.
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2012, 02:05:24 pm »


Also demoed one of these and it works as advertised:

http://www.yamahacommercialaudiosystems.com/product_detail.php?prodID=1130

With a retail of just over $1600 I'd say that qualifies as "money channel" gear.  But it is a 2 channel unit, so that's just around $800 / mic....
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2012, 06:50:10 pm »

Shane, I saw the Portico unit mentioned elsewhere but there were no reviews at that time.  I see the price around $1800.  Is it worth it?

The RDL unit is $150, and appears to be something I'd like to carry in my Pelican case for those pesky political speaking gigs so popular this year.

The RDL units are great for the price.  The Portico worked really well for me and I was surprised how much more headroom I had (Used it on a NFL ref mic in a dome stadium).  I heard ATK started using them as well if that is worth anything. 
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2012, 02:21:13 am »

Shane, I saw the Portico unit mentioned elsewhere but there were no reviews at that time.  I see the price around $1800.  Is it worth it?

The RDL unit is $150, and appears to be something I'd like to carry in my Pelican case for those pesky political speaking gigs so popular this year.

I am not sure now if the RDL units are as good as I initially thought.  I was working with another engineer and we had a chance to A/B comparison these units on two separate sources with them in and out of the signal path, and the clarity and headroom was much improved without the RDL units.  I can't say conclusively that I wouldn't recommend the product because I need some more time to test them, but I am a little less enthusiastic about them for now. 
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2012, 09:44:47 am »



http://tritonaudio.com/index.php?option=com_simpleshop&Itemid=30&cmd=product&product=21&catName=Pro%20Audio

I had a chance to use the Triton FetHead Phantoms in combination with the Countryman ISOMAX 4.  I must say, the results were stunning.   It was the most natural sound we have ever been able to achieve and  was noticeable from the first word spoken through them.   Gain before feedback also seemed to be higher than in the past.   

We face a difficult task,' an outdoor graduation under trees for 12,000 people.  They also  read all 1,200 graduates names so the ceremony can be long.  Near the end, the crowd gets unruly and the noise floor rises quite a bit.  Spoken word can get lost easily.  With this set up, we had far less issues than in the past.    Plus  they are handy to carry around.  I will eventually try some higher end pre-amps when the budget allows, but this was a significant enough improvement that the Provost noticed immediately during his mic check.  If the boss is happy, I am happy.
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Re: Podium Mics and "Money Channel" Outboard
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2012, 10:04:35 am »

The piece we recently added to our arsenal and LOVE so much is the Rupert Neve 5045. We insert on our digital consoles, and really love the results. Actually we have a graduation today with 3 podiums, we're using both the Dan Dugan automix card and the Neve, we're also using a digital snake now, which alone brought back a lot of sound quality..

We also don't mount mics to the podium unless there already is an XLR mount in there. In most cases we use an Audio Technica base, or if we're doing dual podium mics we have some nice wiremold boxes with a dual XLR plate, a 2 pair 25' comes off the box. They look really slick.
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