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Author Topic: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10  (Read 6993 times)

Craig Hauber

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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 06:56:00 pm »

But the REAL question is WHY did the customer buy speakers that won't do the job and have to be modified.  Overall it would have been much better to get a PROPER loudspeaker for the job-not something that a salesman talked them into.

But it happens all the time.  No wonder our industry is in such a  mess with bad sound systems all over the place.
The industry is a mess because it is tuned to sell as much equipment to as many people as it can, but not to sell the actual "solutions" to people's audio needs.

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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 08:54:48 am »

The industry is a mess because it is tuned to sell as much equipment to as many people as it can, but not to sell the actual "solutions" to people's audio needs.

Well, it IS QSC's job to make a profit.



Look at Renkus-Heinz for small, flyable, self powered speakers in a variety of coverage patterns.
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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 09:08:37 am »

This is a pretty clear case of someone buying gear without first considering if it was appropriate for the situation.  The choices are pretty much to make the best of what you have or get something else that would be a better solution.
 
By the way, as Ivan noted, you may want to look a bit closer at the Faital horn you linked.  Based on the information shown they may be about 55x55 at 4kHz, but at 1kHz they are almost 120x120, at 2kHz around 70x75, at 8kHz about 45x45 and at 16kHz around 30x30.   And that is just the horn pattern without considering the effects of the enclosure, the interaction with the LF driver, etc.  So what would be the resulting effective pattern for your use?
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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 08:42:00 pm »

This is a pretty clear case of someone buying gear without first considering if it was appropriate for the situation.

K-10's in a tiny church?  ideal IMO... only 2 needed.  If they have to be louder I simply wouldn't want to be there.
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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 09:50:17 pm »

K-10's in a tiny church?  ideal IMO... only 2 needed.  If they have to be louder I simply wouldn't want to be there.
It depends on the Church.

We have many around here that are basically "concert venues".  Lots of lights (we have one that has close to 100 movers) video etc.

And they get quite loud.

There are quite a few that "worship the kick drum" or so it seems anyway.  Everything is done to get the impact of the kick drum.

And then we have plenty of traditional Churches that are speech only or light music and everything in between.

There is no "normal Church" -around here at least.
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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2013, 12:14:53 am »

It depends on the Church.

We have many around here that are basically "concert venues".  Lots of lights (we have one that has close to 100 movers) video etc.

And they get quite loud.

There are quite a few that "worship the kick drum" or so it seems anyway.  Everything is done to get the impact of the kick drum.

And then we have plenty of traditional Churches that are speech only or light music and everything in between.

There is no "normal Church" -around here at least.

My clients are surprised when I refer to  there services as concerts... but they keep calling my back because they have discovered through experience that their house (or HOW) system simply fall apart when they attempt a special event.

In the pic here two K-10'a or 12's, hung appropriately, and with subs,  probably would have been easier to execute the show then the system I deployed.
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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2013, 10:46:12 am »

It depends on the Church.

We have many around here that are basically "concert venues".  Lots of lights (we have one that has close to 100 movers) video etc.

And they get quite loud.

There are quite a few that "worship the kick drum" or so it seems anyway.  Everything is done to get the impact of the kick drum.

And then we have plenty of traditional Churches that are speech only or light music and everything in between.

There is no "normal Church" -around here at least.

I call those "The 10 a.m. God Show."  If you can't get butts in seats (or pews) without 100 movers and bone crushing LF, there is something wrong with the message or messenger.
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Re: Replacement Horn Lens to narrow throw on QSC K10
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