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No idea what to buy...
« on: January 26, 2012, 08:12:10 pm »

Hi,

When it comes to sound I have a pretty good idea as to what is complete crap or just won't work for the job however i can't say the same for lighting. I'm in need of some lights that will be used weekly for live bands. The other 2 guys who i work with have split opinions. Mark uses 8 PAR56's, 4 on each side on T bars plugged straight into the wall and the other guy, Bruce uses 8 LED PARS, 4 a side DMX'd.

 Mark says that the LED's just aren't bright enough but i haven't noticed this because the 3 times i've used them have all been at the same venue in which the band is pushed into a corner of a small room 50'x50'??

So what do you guys use for live bands? analog par56's, LED's or something completely different..

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Re: No idea what to buy...
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 08:28:44 pm »

Hi,

When it comes to sound I have a pretty good idea as to what is complete crap or just won't work for the job however i can't say the same for lighting. I'm in need of some lights that will be used weekly for live bands. The other 2 guys who i work with have split opinions. Mark uses 8 PAR56's, 4 on each side on T bars plugged straight into the wall and the other guy, Bruce uses 8 LED PARS, 4 a side DMX'd.

 Mark says that the LED's just aren't bright enough but i haven't noticed this because the 3 times i've used them have all been at the same venue in which the band is pushed into a corner of a small room 50'x50'??

So what do you guys use for live bands? analog par56's, LED's or something completely different..

I think it may depend on what is the purpose of the lighting?  Is is just to light up the band, and not be part of a light 'show'?  If the Par 56s are just 'plugged into the wall', that implies all those lights are just 'on' with no scene changes, unless I'm misreading your post. 

If you plan on having the lights be more 'active' and actually part of a light show, I would go with the LEDs. LEDs using DMX can change colors, run to audio, fade, strobe, and do things standard Pars cannot do.  Assuming the LEDs are at least 1watt bulbs, they should be bright enough to do what you're looking to do.  Again, it would depend on what you expect out of your lighting.  Let us know how it works out! 
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Re: No idea what to buy...
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 08:58:13 pm »

For the band i'm just looking at something very easy to setup and use. It will probably be on all the time...

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 09:12:02 pm »

Unless you want the cheapest solution to "lights on the band", go for LED's, for many reasons. No heat, no lamps to replace, very little current draw, endless array of colors, easy to expand, light-weight, and will park the truck.

What's your budget?
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 09:31:56 pm »

Unless you want the cheapest solution to "lights on the band", go for LED's, for many reasons. No heat, no lamps to replace, very little current draw, endless array of colors, easy to expand, light-weight, and will park the truck.

What's your budget?

I've got around $22-26k left out of the budget.. Im planning on also getting 16 PAR64's, 8 fresnels and some other bits and pieces..

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 09:40:09 pm »

I've got around $22-26k left out of the budget.. Im planning on also getting 16 PAR64's, 8 fresnels and some other bits and pieces..

Chris I may suggest looking at the Blizzard Lighting Rocklite Tri's  Extremely bright (Lux: 25: 17,040 @ 1m), since you were worried about brightness, and remember if they are too bright, LED's dim nicely, but you can't make a lite that is too dim brighter.

And being tri LED's you get nice smooth color mixing, and no LED shadowing.

At around $350/ea. *16 = $5600, leaves plenty in the budget for some fresnals, and maybe add some heads like the Blizzard Northstar Quantum Pro Quandrant mapped moving head wash, that not only has amazing color mixing.  The patterns you can create give the crowd some visual eye candy.  It is an amazing light.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 10:25:15 pm »

Chris I may suggest looking at the Blizzard Lighting Rocklite Tri's  Extremely bright (Lux: 25: 17,040 @ 1m), since you were worried about brightness, and remember if they are too bright, LED's dim nicely, but you can't make a lite that is too dim brighter.

And being tri LED's you get nice smooth color mixing, and no LED shadowing.

At around $350/ea. *16 = $5600, leaves plenty in the budget for some fresnals, and maybe add some heads like the Blizzard Northstar Quantum Pro Quandrant mapped moving head wash, that not only has amazing color mixing.  The patterns you can create give the crowd some visual eye candy.  It is an amazing light.
Look and seem pretty good, wonder if i can get them sent to Australia..

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 10:54:11 pm »

Look and seem pretty good, wonder if i can get them sent to Australia..

I didn't realize you had an Australian web address.  I am unsure about shipping or distribution to AU.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 02:17:53 am »

Look and seem pretty good, wonder if i can get them sent to Australia..
I'm pretty sure they ship anywhere, although shipping to Aus will be expensive
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 09:05:24 pm »

Yeah they do which is great. Their customer service so far has been brilliant, offering a 20% discount plus they are offering to pay shipping which is brilliant :D

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 09:17:26 pm »

Yeah they do which is great. Their customer service so far has been brilliant, offering a 20% discount plus they are offering to pay shipping which is brilliant :D

So you are picking up Blizzard's?  Who did you get them through?
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 11:10:43 pm »

So you are picking up Blizzard's?  Who did you get them through?

Got them through Frank Luppino at Blizzard's themselves, originally to find an Australian distributor but they ship direct to the customer.

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 11:27:39 pm »

Nice,
I wasn't sure if they would sell directly to you in Australia.  If you need any help, you can contact me through here.  I am a moderator on their forum, and have some connections.  Once you get your setup up.  You'll have to send me some pics, I'll get them up on Blizzard's site for you.

PS. What did you purchase.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 11:34:02 pm »

Nice,
I wasn't sure if they would sell directly to you in Australia.  If you need any help, you can contact me through here.  I am a moderator on their forum, and have some connections.  Once you get your setup up.  You'll have to send me some pics, I'll get them up on Blizzard's site for you.

PS. What did you purchase.
Oh cheers for that.. I haven't made my final decision but i'm looking at something like 32 Rocklite Tri's, 16 Northstar Quantum Pro's and I'm considering also maybe 8 Torrent 90's..

I've also eventually got to find a decent desk...

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 11:44:48 pm »

Can't help you much with a big board.  The GrandMa's are nice.  If you decide to go software, Blizzard just released Eclipse.  You can try it out for free here...
http://www.blizzardlighting.com/index.php/eclipsedmx
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Re: No idea what to buy...
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 03:22:00 am »

Can't help you much with a big board.  The GrandMa's are nice.  If you decide to go software, Blizzard just released Eclipse.  You can try it out for free here...
http://www.blizzardlighting.com/index.php/eclipsedmx

Might take a look at some of the Jands stuff.... probably get it cheap because their also the distributer for Harman in Aus and i've gotta pick up a VP array and VERTEC array from them soon so....

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