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On the LS9 one can link any number of channels with all functions or particular sections (HA, dyn, aux sends, channel eq etc). I see groupings for strip eq, and comps but where is that multi channel linking ability on the 5d (especially more than two channels in the aux sends)?

[Steven Barnes]

On the LS9 one can link any number of channels with all functions or particular sections (HA, dyn, aux sends, channel eq etc). I see groupings for strip eq, and comps but where is that multi channel linking ability on the 5d (especially more than two channels in the aux sends)?

I haven't been on a 5D in quite a while, but if I recall you hold the 2 select buttons on the channels you want to pair. The channels must be sequential i.e. 1&2, 3&4, and so on. You cannot select channels like 2&3 or 2&10. Lastly I do not know if they ever released selective channel pairing, it is an all or nothing thing.

If someone has any more info or any correction to my reply please post up.

[Mac Kerr]

On the LS9 one can link any number of channels with all functions or particular sections (HA, dyn, aux sends, channel eq etc). I see groupings for strip eq, and comps but where is that multi channel linking ability on the 5d (especially more than two channels in the aux sends)?

The DM1000, DM2000, and LS9 have channel link because they don't have DCAs (VCAs). THe PM5D does have DCAs. The M7 for some reason has both.

Mac

[Tim Padrick]

The channel links can link not just the faders, but the headamps, dynmanics, EQ, and auxes - much handier for stereo pairs than just the faders via DCA.

[Mac Kerr]

The channel links can link not just the faders, but the headamps, dynmanics, EQ, and auxes - much handier for stereo pairs than just the faders via DCA.

For stereo pairs the pairing as previously described works fine.

Mac

[Nick Hickman]

I haven't been on a 5D in quite a while, but if I recall you hold the 2 select buttons on the channels you want to pair. The channels must be sequential i.e. 1&2, 3&4, and so on. You cannot select channels like 2&3 or 2&10.

The PM5D also has a "vertical" pairing mode where you pair channels to equivalent faders on the two main layers.  I've found this useful both in making the source available on both layers and in freeing faders on the 1-24 layer.  It's all or nothing, though: "horizontal" or "vertical".

Nick

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The DM1000, DM2000, and LS9 have channel link because they don't have DCAs (VCAs). THe PM5D does have DCAs. The M7 for some reason has both.

Mac

Is it just me or isn't it a real shame that yammie doesn't offer that much more robust multi channel link to the top o the line console. There must be folks with surround sources for whom the 5ds are painful if not just unusable.

[Tim McCulloch]

Is it just me or isn't it a real shame that yammie doesn't offer that much more robust multi channel link to the top o the line console. There must be folks with surround sources for whom the 5ds are painful if not just unusable.

I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would use 5.1 in a live setting.  Sure, there are high-value clients to whom we'll say "5.1, no problemo" (and explain the live limitations and take their money) but in a general sense, outside of video or cinema playback, what's the point of 5.1?

In theatre, there are plenty of discrete playback & EFX speakers for exacting localization, but I don't know anyone designing a play or musical specifically and *exclusively* in 5.1.

As for video and cinema post production, that's another animal all together and beyond the scope of these forums.

Tim Mc

[Andrew Makinson]

(snip)THe PM5D does have DCAs. (snip)

Mac

Is it just me or isn't it a real shame that yammie doesn't offer that much more robust multi channel link to the top o the line console. There must be folks with surround sources for whom the 5ds are painful if not just unusable.

What are you trying to do?  I can see how having HA link across multiple channels could be nice but I've never found it painful or unusable.

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My point about the pairing is most often run into on toms/perc/hrns, where one sets separate input gain and eqs. But it can be expedient to have the mix sends grouped when someone is asking for more of a source with several channels that you get them with one fader throw.

On the lowly ls9 you can group dozens of channels together like this. Not just pairs. Plus you get the flexibility to separate HA,eq, sends,faders on desired channels.

My mention of 5.1 is to illustrate how fast those pairs lose their usefulness... an awards show with a few fancy playback decks, plus live broadcast and you'd be paging around the 5d like crazy. I don't mean to belabor this topic, I just find the flexibility of channel link vastly better than pairing.

@ Tim - I agree and I run mono everywhere it makes sense to.

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