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[Robert "VOiD" Caprio]

Greetings fellas (and ladies),

Looking for a good sounding, inexpensive solution to avoid using a speaker on stage.  Besides a POD or a Palmer what's out there than can impose a speaker load on an amp head and feed a line level out?

[Tim Halligan]

Motherload?


http://www.motherloadusa.com/motherload-load-box-directbox-home.asp


Cheers,
Tim

[Ned Ward]

Motherload - I'm sure it's nice, but if Robert doesn't want to  spring for a Palmer, he's probably not going to want a $1200 loadbox, no matter how good it is.


I used to use an ADA MicroCab II, which will pass a speaker-level signal from an amp head.
I had also had a couple of the Hughes & Kettner Red Box, which is similar.
Radial's JDI DI will also accept a speaker-level signal at the flick of a switch.

For a resistive load afterwards (none of these are like a Palmer where it has the resistors in it), you could build this:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/apr94/dummyload.html

There's a Microcab II on Fleabay right now for $200. I liked the sound of it back then, but was only running an ADA preamp through it. Red Boxes are also there for $75-85.

[Robert "VOiD" Caprio]

Thanks for the info fellas.  I put the word in about this for someone else and they are on a tight budget.  I will likely be buying a Palmer myself soon...

[Mac Kerr]

Greetings fellas (and ladies),

Looking for a good sounding, inexpensive solution to avoid using a speaker on stage.  Besides a POD or a Palmer what's out there than can impose a speaker load on an amp head and feed a line level out?

An iso box, with the amp in it?

Mac

[Lee Douglas]

There's a Microcab II on Fleabay right now for $200. I liked the sound of it back then, but was only running an ADA preamp through it.

I still own an ADA ampulator.  It's designed to take a preamp and simulate a tube amp on the back end.  I've still got a complete rack of ADA guitar gear that I pull out on occasion. 

There are modifications for the Microcab I & II to give them a built in transformer and allow a direct connection to an amplifier providing adjustable load values for tube amps.

http://www.adadepot.com/forum/index.php/topic,3357.0.html

This was the introductory thread from 2004.  Check with a poster called 'stah for current info.

[Ned Ward]

I remember drooling about the Ampulator when it came out... I had the ADA MP-1 from 92-2010; last year it gave up the ghost. Had 2 MicroCabs and then upgraded to the MicroCab II's for the ADA and a Mesa V-Twin. When I went back to amps and pedalboards I sold them off.

Nice to know there's a mod to make the MicroCab even better.

[Dan Klotz]

I've never liked the sound of the POD distortion for playing live, but we have gigs where I have to run direct. I wound up using the POD set to a clean Fender Twin setting, and use my pedal board in front of it. The pedal board I use most of the time has a Jekyl & Hyde and Keely DS-1, my other board has Mesa Boogie V Twin an a Fulldrive 2. It's not the holy grail of tone, but it sounds decent.

[Ned Ward]

Depending on what kind of sound he's looking for, there may be preamps he can go direct with and get close to his amp head tone. Not the same, but an alternative.

[Bob Leonard]

Why not just record the song, then you don't even have to show up for the gig. Simulators, emulators, fuckulators all suck. Mac has the only good suggestion.

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