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M7CL soft patch?

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Todd Cooke:
I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but, the M7 has 16 internal buses (mixes) that can each act as a traditional aux send would or, with the push of a button, as a traditional group would.  In addition, it does have 8 DCAs which are also like a traditional group, but a little more flexible.

The one feature about the LS9 that I like a lot is the Custom Fader layer where you can lay out your surface the way you want to with inputs and mix buses in any configuration you like.

brian dunard:
The LS9 doesn't have DCA's from what I can tell.  Putting a comp across the DCA doesn't sound like a big deal to me since I can apply compression to each channel that needs it.  However, if I group faders on the drums, it seems like it would be a pain if to ungroup and then regroup everytime I wanted to make a level change to one drum with the drum group.  Is there a digital workaround that I'm not seeing that doesn't involve a DCA?

Scott Helmke (Scodiddly):
brian dunard wrote on Fri, 11 February 2011 18:56
The LS9 doesn't have DCA's from what I can tell.  Putting a comp across the DCA doesn't sound like a big deal to me since I can apply compression to each channel that needs it.  However, if I group faders on the drums, it seems like it would be a pain if to ungroup and then regroup everytime I wanted to make a level change to one drum with the drum group.  Is there a digital workaround that I'm not seeing that doesn't involve a DCA?


You seem to have the terminology mixed up a bit.

Both the LS9 and the M7CL have 16 "Mixes", which can be configured in pairs as either aux sends or groups.  Both also have 8 Matrix buses, though the M7CL has the additional feature that input channels can feed the matrices, essentially giving the M7CL 24 mix buses.

So those are things that actually carry audio, and could have a comp or other processing inserted.

The M7CL, unlike the LS9, has at DCA (digitally controlled amplifier, basically the exact same thing as an analog VCA).  These are control only, and cannot have processing inserted.

If all the drums are assigned to a DCA, that DCA controls the overall level of the drums.  You can still just grab a fader an individual channel and change its level within the drums.  The DCA control is an addition to the fader control, not a replacement.

Christian Tepfer:
Some more differences are:
The M7CL can be controlled via the iPad MixPad app.

The LS9 has full graphic EQ control (on the LS9-32) and USB recording and playback.

Both desks can have multiple soft patches that only share the head amp.

brian dunard:
I don't doubt that I have terminology mixed up.  So if you were on an LS9 and wanted to group the drums together without physically griping the faders together and have either one stereo fader or two mono faders control the level of the drums how would you go about doing it?

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