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Craig Leerman

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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2011, 01:20:41 am »

David Buehler wrote on Thu, 30 December 2010 10:37

I think you might look at the Chamsys line, you could do a EEEpc and a Chamsys PC wing for like $3k-4k with almost all the feature set of the MQ-100s and we've had many LDs use that setup. Our lighting guys just sold both of their MAXxyz consoles last week for a song, and are gonna stick with the Grandmas and Chamsys (they have both MQ-100+wings + PC wings and dongles/Touchscreen PCs) as thats what the trends for us tend to be.


Another vote for the Chamsys MagicQ. The consoles are well made, and the PC software is exactly the same as in the consoles.

I have seen quite a few LDs use Chamsys, and I switched to it a few years ago and now use it as my main console.

 

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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2011, 08:43:14 am »

James Feenstra wrote on Thu, 31 December 2010 00:06

Mark Lonow wrote on Wed, 29 December 2010 17:45

      http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/606998/24533/?sr ch=avolites#msg_606998best cheap real light console

4 dmx uni
10 faders with 40 bumps




the azure's bump buttons are rather painful to use
it doesn't cue list (if i recall neither does the pearl 2000, although the later models kind of do, although qlist editing is a pain in the ass)
it doesn't crossfade cues very well
you *need* a monitor to use the desk
the overall workflow on the desk is rather clunky, as far as where everything's laid out




I've got an Azure Shadow, mostly used for small club jobs and cant say that the problems James mentioned have ever really bothered me.  It is definitely a console designed for rock and roll use, not theatre.

The bump buttons dont seem to be that different to those on the Pearl.  What makes you say they are painful to use?

The Azure does have a theatre stack and cue list function, but given it is a club and busking rock and roll style desk, its not one of the main features.

I guess cross fades are down to personal opinion, i've personally had no problems with the Azures crossfades, but again, i'm not using it for theatre.

I dont think the monitor thing is a major issue as no matter what kind of desk your using, its always nice to have a monitor.  You dont need to use a huge 20" CRT, I normally use a 12" TFT monitor and it does the job nicely whilst not taking up much room.

Workflow wise, again I guess its down to opinion again.  I do lots of work on the Azure, along with the Pearl and ETC congo.  I find that although each is different, once you get used to a console and learn the workflow and layout, its as easy to program as any other desk.  When I first used the azure, I also found it a bit clunky and time consuming to program, however given time and practice, I can now program a show on an Azure as fast as any other console.

Adam


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James Feenstra

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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2011, 12:55:17 pm »

the buttons on this (azure 2000):
http://www.fuzeconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/avo lites-azure.jpg

are nothing like this (pearl):
http://www.enlightenedlighting.co.uk/sites/default/files/Avo lites_Pearl_2004_2008.jpg

im not doing theatre either, 98% of my shows are rock and roll, although my shows typically include a large amount of cue listing, so quick and easy cue list editing is important
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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2011, 02:45:14 pm »

Ahh, I was refering to the Azure Shadow
http://www.avolites.org.uk/products/azshadow.htm

It uses the same classic Avo 'rock and roll' buttons as all of the other Avo desks.

Adam

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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2011, 04:37:38 pm »

never used the azure shadow, looks like a baby pearl so it might be useable haha
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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2011, 05:11:56 pm »

The Azure Shadow is the same as the Azure 2000 except without the waterproof membrane (which is why the buttons are weird on the 2000).  It was made to go in clubs where there is a high potential of drink spillage.
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Re: Big Boy lighting consoles ?????
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2011, 11:48:59 am »

I highly recommend both the Azure and any Chamsys products.  I also have my Azure Shadow listed for sale, but I'm very torn on parting with such a fun console.  The Shadow is way more fun than the Azure 2000 due to the buttons (I've had both, but sold my 2000 a couple of months ago).  I also have a Chamsys PC Wing (not currently for sale) and its a blast to use as well.

Also, if you're interested in any Chamsys MagicQ products, shoot me a message or email, I have a good contact with a wholesale account that is able to do some very excellent pricing.
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