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Walk away, walk away...
Jason Roesler:
Can I just say that that is the quote of the day , 95K discount!!
I have had a couple of jobs like that, people just don't understand the process of installation, site visit + requirements analysis, go back to the shop and and build the quote and submit it.
I have people who want a figure on the spot, i have people who take a catalogue with them and pick every item on the spot for price e.t.c instead of just say letting me create a quote and apply a discount.
And the general issue of people thinking that the AV industry is cheap and that spending proper money on good gear is not necessary. Drives me nuts all the time.
Another thing, flying B52 speakers would be intense and not worth it. I don't think that there is a more oversized make of speakers out there than B52.
BTW, this is my first post on this site, im quite excited that i found it
Jas
Jordan Wolf:
Jason Roesler wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 17:49
BTW, this is my first post on this site, im quite excited that i found it
And we're quite excited to see that you've followed the rules. Many people seem to miss the "real name" aspect of their profiles...thanks for recognizing that off-the-bat.
Explore and enjoy, but realize that this place is switching over to another site in a short time. You'll want to browse while you can while everything's still active.
Brad Weber:
Jason Roesler wrote on Tue, 08 February 2011 17:49
I have people who want a figure on the spot, i have people who take a catalogue with them and pick every item on the spot for price e.t.c instead of just say letting me create a quote and apply a discount.
In a consulting role I've found myself having clients ask why specific items in bids cost what they do when they can get the product themselves for less. I have learned to point out that they can purchase whatever items they themselves. They can also install, wire, test, support, warranty, etc. whatever they buy themselves. Oh, and there will be no overall system warranty since the bidder won't be responsible for everything in the system. That usually gets them to realize that there is more to a properly functioning system than just the equipment itself and that those other elements have some value.
Of course, then there are the clients like the one who purchased a nice installed presentation system with an integrated control system and interfaces to lights, draperies, etc. When they were invoiced they refused to pay for and system design or programming services because they had not requested those. We came within hours of going out to the site to get all the system documentation and wipe out any programming before they agreed that they had indeed gotten some value from those services.
Duane Massey:
Just a follow-up: the client called me back and has accepted my proposal. Apparently they followed my suggestion that they should get some proposals from some other companies (I even gave them a list of reputable companies along with GC), and realized that my proposal was actually accurate and cost-effective. They've also hired a local "sound tech" to be the in-house engineer, and he will work with me during the installation, which I also suggested.
Sometimes walking away can become a U-turn.
arashi norite:
ive seen these before ...
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