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[Tim Weaver]

I wonder how many SL24's are on the truck as backups?

If multi tracking live, and quality monitoring is something you're going to spend your own cash on this is the way to go.

 http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/soundcraft_digital_consol es_used_by_flyleaf_for_their_current_us_tour/

These guys put some thought into this rig and it shows. This is a fantastic sounding console package with more flexibility than you would ever use. While it is a lot larger than the SL24, it is quite a compact console package still....


Edit: While I know this piece is ad copy from Soundcraft but I personally know this group, and they really did spend their own money on this setup and spec'd every piece of of the recording and console setup without the help of corporate sponsorship. Just thought I would head that train off track before it ever started.

[Vinny D'Agostino]

I like Paul Gilbert, but I really hate these cheesy Ad's everyone seems to be doing lately  

[Callan Carnahan]

Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 10:02

Justice C. Bigler wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 01:00 I'm a StudioLive hater, but I'd rather have it than a Venice 320... Me too, but that was no Venice 320. There was also some pretty cash outboard. That video was like watching someone get excited about a Prius.

Great comparison    Question: Why would you take Presonus' built-in comps over a rack of Klark comps and gates?

Answer: Endorsement contract requirements. That SE probably hated the fact that he had to endorse a board that costs a little more than twice of what one of those DN500's costs  

Kind of a cheesy ad, though, all things aside. But damn does Paul Gilbert love his big ol' cans!

[Kristian Johnsen]

Callan Carnahan wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 17:36

Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 10:02 Justice C. Bigler wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 01:00 I'm a StudioLive hater, but I'd rather have it than a Venice 320... Me too, but that was no Venice 320. There was also some pretty cash outboard. That video was like watching someone get excited about a Prius. Great comparison    Question: Why would you take Presonus' built-in comps over a rack of Klark comps and gates? Answer: Endorsement contract requirements. That SE probably hated the fact that he had to endorse a board that costs a little more than twice of what one of those DN500's costs   Kind of a cheesy ad, though, all things aside. But damn does Paul Gilbert love his big ol' cans!

If they were hell-bent on multi-track recording wouldn't sticking with the exsiting mixer be the quickest and easiest way to do it in every venue?

I have actually used a 01v96 in a venue that had a MH3 with outboard for the simple reason of not stepping on the other act's toes.  Worked fine for me, and I assume them, too.

[Greg Cameron]

Don McMeckan wrote on Thu, 30 December 2010 23:59

I met Ace a couple of times very briefly when he was working for Tower of Power. The tour they did with Tom Jones about 4 or 5 years ago, Tom Jones' FOH guy had a PM5D, Ace wanted a PM 4000. My how times have changed!

When I saw Tom at the dinner theater in Vegas several years ago, a PM4000 is exactly what they had at FOH. Great show. Tom is one of the best live shows I've ever been to I'd have to say. That little ol' man can sure belt it out after all these years. Probably gets laid proper on a regular basis by much younger fans judging by the crowd response.

Greg

[Mike Christy]

It pretty clear to me that they are ( going to try) using the SL for recording only, and they say nothing of actually engaging any of the onboard comps. No one in their right mind would do that (hard squishing) for tracking, but then the way MP3s sound nowadays, why not?

[Don McMeckan]

Tom Jones with TOP was one of the first shows n our new arena.  am a HUGE TOP fan, but was blown away by Tom's show. Sings all styles, perfect pitch control, and made fun of the whole throwing the panties on the stage.

Ace's mix , unfortunately, was mostly distortion. Probably a function of the PM 4000 going through a couple channels on the PM5D, and trying to get past the limiting in the system, but it could be any number of things.

Thanks,       Don

[John Cameron]

Mike Christy wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 13:44

It pretty clear to me that they are ( going to try) using the SL for recording only, and they say nothing of actually engaging any of the onboard comps. No one in their right mind would do that (hard squishing) for tracking, but then the way MP3s sound nowadays, why not?

You can select the direct firewire outs to be pre fat channel.

John

[Jason Phair]

Don McMeckan wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 14:35

Ace's mix , unfortunately, was mostly distortion. Probably a function of the PM 4000 going through a couple channels on the PM5D

Right, because Digital = Distortion, right?

[Don McMeckan]

Jason Phair wrote on Sat, 01 January 2011 21:22

Don McMeckan wrote on Fri, 31 December 2010 14:35 Ace's mix , unfortunately, was mostly distortion. Probably a function of the PM 4000 going through a couple channels on the PM5D Right, because Digital = Distortion, right?

OR, the PM5D channels being low, and Ace trying to get more SPL when none was forthcoming! ( There was no one manning the PM5D during their set. )

The only analog mixer I own is a Peavey 16 x 6 monitor mixer, which could be older than you! Of course, you would have to be 30 yrs. or younger.


Thanks,        Don