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[Frederik Rosenkjær]

Has no one thought to ask if all these horns have been fried in:

A: The same cabinet - which would be virtually a necessity for the "faulty cross-over"-hypothesis to work.

or

B: Whatever cabinet happened to be at a particular side of the stage that evening - which be indicative of some failure in the amp or earlier in the chain.

Sorry, if this has been mentioned - but I couldn't find it in the thread.

[Ivan Beaver]

Frederik Rosenkj For every complicated question-there is a simple- easy to understand WRONG answer. Can I have some more talent in the monitors--PLEASE? Ivan Beaver dB Audio & Video Inc. Danley Sound Labs leon garrity Jr. Member Offline Posts: 89 Re: Blown drivers in Danley SM60F-More thoughts Hi, Horns fried with both a lab 4000 and a 3400 on them at different times. Ive had my amps serviced by a lab specialist in the uk and given the all clear.No horns gone tonight as kept it very low,scared to push it. Leon Ivan Beaver Hero Member Offline Posts: 9010 Re: Blown drivers in Danley SM60F-More thoughts leon garrity wrote on Sun, 13 February 2011 21:17 Hi, Horns fried with both a lab 4000 and a 3400 on them at different times. Ive had my amps serviced by a lab specialist in the uk and given the all clear.No horns gone tonight as kept it very low,scared to push it. Leon But what about the signal path IN FRONT of the amps?  There could be something that has a problem and the amps are just "passing it along". I'm not saying this is the problem-just a possible cause. For every complicated question-there is a simple- easy to understand WRONG answer. Can I have some more talent in the monitors--PLEASE? Ivan Beaver dB Audio & Video Inc. Danley Sound Labs Ivan Beaver Hero Member Offline Posts: 9010 Re: Blown drivers in Danley SM60F-More thoughts-and more thoughts leon garrity wrote on Sun, 13 February 2011 21:17 Hi, Horns fried with both a lab 4000 and a 3400 on them at different times. Ive had my amps serviced by a lab specialist in the uk and given the all clear.No horns gone tonight as kept it very low,scared to push it. Leon It might help the understanding if you posted some of the typical music you play (links to songs and so forth), DSP settings you use (screen capture would be nice), and so forth.  This would give a clue as to the level and freq content that is going on in your system. We know what the sympton is, but the cause is still elusive. For every complicated question-there is a simple- easy to understand WRONG answer. Can I have some more talent in the monitors--PLEASE? Ivan Beaver dB Audio & Video Inc. Danley Sound Labs leon garrity Jr. Member Offline Posts: 89 Re: Blown drivers in Danley SM60F-More thoughts Hello Ivan, just to reiterate i have changed my desk pc(laptop) cables both rack and loudspeaker all made by a pro not me. had my amps checked out by certified Lab Gruppen specialist. changed my processor from UX8800 to BSS Omnidrive 366T. All because i thought it might be something that i had in the chain. The SH100 TH115 all work fantastic but the SM60 something has gone a rye with them.Now i was beginning to go pretty stir crazy until someone PM'd me over the passive curcuit boards in the SH50's Problems with them back in 2008? Now for one minute i don't say that Danley is nothing but an unreal sounding box but one thing is this, out of all the crossovers that you guys make to go into your boxes do you think that maybe just maybe a couple of dodgy boards slipped through and some guy over in the UK may have just the faulty pair.I know and understand your faith in your product but last year 5000 BMW 5 series cars were recalled with a fault,3 years ago Toyota the same.I know cars and speakers are in a totally different ball park but manufacturing is not foolproof.In one of the newspaper articles a customer bought a Danley box and there was a fault with one of the boards,you guys were prepared to ship either a new box or a new board to the customer. This fault only happens when the system has been on for a while and been used and what i mean by that is turned up( not to the point of clip or ridicoulous usage) kind reguards Leon leon garrity Jr. Member Offline Posts: 89 Re: Blown drivers in Danley SM60F-More thoughts-and more thoughts Hello again, we use live bass,rest is on track (backing Track) now for 16 years i have used the same musical format,on minidisc until laptop for the last 4 years,and in that time i have used D&B C6/C7 EAW KF695z/SB625.Turbo Sound plus a very early peavey rig and a couple more,EV SX300,GAE from Germany now i have never blown any drivers in any of those systems i have always maintained my gear and when i have sold it and moved on the equipment has always been in good shape both audibly and cosmeticaly. It is difficult but i am 4000 miles away just one thing to tell you i use the SH100 as a centre speaker from the same desk from the same cables from the same processor from the same amps and possibly same loudspeaker cables.............but hey that has not blown.It has worked fantastic and maybe had more power in it sometimes than the rated 300/600 watts. Leon Print Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Up « previous next » ProSoundWeb Community > Sound Reinforcement - Forums for Live Sound Professionals - Your Displayed Name Must Be Your Real Full Name To Post In The Live Sound Forums > SR Forum Archives > LAB Subwoofer FUD Forum Archive > Blown drivers in Danley SM60F   Forums © ProSoundWeb SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies XHTML RSS WAP2 Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc. Page created in 0.024 seconds with 17 queries.

[leon garrity]

Hi,


Horns fried with both a lab 4000 and a 3400 on them at different times.
Ive had my amps serviced by a lab specialist in the uk and given the all clear.No horns gone tonight as kept it very low,scared to push it.

Leon

[Ivan Beaver]

leon garrity wrote on Sun, 13 February 2011 21:17

Hi, Horns fried with both a lab 4000 and a 3400 on them at different times. Ive had my amps serviced by a lab specialist in the uk and given the all clear.No horns gone tonight as kept it very low,scared to push it. Leon

But what about the signal path IN FRONT of the amps?  There could be something that has a problem and the amps are just "passing it along".

I'm not saying this is the problem-just a possible cause.

[Ivan Beaver]

leon garrity wrote on Sun, 13 February 2011 21:17

Hi, Horns fried with both a lab 4000 and a 3400 on them at different times. Ive had my amps serviced by a lab specialist in the uk and given the all clear.No horns gone tonight as kept it very low,scared to push it. Leon

It might help the understanding if you posted some of the typical music you play (links to songs and so forth), DSP settings you use (screen capture would be nice), and so forth.  This would give a clue as to the level and freq content that is going on in your system.

We know what the sympton is, but the cause is still elusive.

[leon garrity]

Hello Ivan,

just to reiterate i have changed

my desk
pc(laptop)
cables both rack and loudspeaker all made by a pro not me.
had my amps checked out by certified Lab Gruppen specialist.
changed my processor from UX8800 to BSS Omnidrive 366T.

All because i thought it might be something that i had in the chain.
The SH100 TH115 all work fantastic but the SM60 something has gone a rye with them.Now i was beginning to go pretty stir crazy until someone PM'd me over the passive curcuit boards in the SH50's Problems with them back in 2008? Now for one minute i don't say that Danley is nothing but an unreal sounding box but one thing is this, out of all the crossovers that you guys make to go into your boxes do you think that maybe just maybe a couple of dodgy boards slipped through and some guy over in the UK may have just the faulty pair.I know and understand your faith in your product but last year 5000 BMW 5 series cars were recalled with a fault,3 years ago Toyota the same.I know cars and speakers are in a totally different ball park but manufacturing is not foolproof.In one of the newspaper articles a customer bought a Danley box and there was a fault with one of the boards,you guys were prepared to ship either a new box or a new board to the customer.
This fault only happens when the system has been on for a while and been used and what i mean by that is turned up( not to the point of clip or ridicoulous usage)

kind reguards Leon

[leon garrity]

Hello again,

we use live bass,rest is on track (backing Track) now for 16 years i have used the same musical format,on minidisc until laptop for the last 4 years,and in that time i have used D&B C6/C7 EAW KF695z/SB625.Turbo Sound plus a very early peavey rig and a couple more,EV SX300,GAE from Germany now i have never blown any drivers in any of those systems i have always maintained my gear and when i have sold it and moved on the equipment has always been in good shape both audibly and cosmeticaly.
It is difficult but i am 4000 miles away just one thing to tell you i use the SH100 as a centre speaker from the same desk from the same cables from the same processor from the same amps and possibly same loudspeaker cables.............but hey that has not blown.It has worked fantastic and maybe had more power in it sometimes than the rated 300/600 watts.

Leon