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New Behringer digital mixer, the X32
Craig Walsh:
Has anyone seen this yet?
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/X32.aspx
Its price range would put it in competition with the O1V96 and Presonus offerings. But, it has some pretty good stuff to put it more in the league of the Yammy LS9:
32-Channel 16-Bus Digital Total Recall Live/Recording Mixing Console
•Total recall
•32 channels with inserts
•16 mix busses with inserts
•6 aux sends and returns
•8 stereo FX returns
•6 matrix mixers with inserts
•6 mute groups
•8 DCA groups
•Full-recording / multi-channel networking via FW/USB expansion cards*
•48-channel "digital snake" via ultra-low latency AES-50 ports*
•Fully programmable, high-end mic preamps
•25 low-noise 100mm motorized faders
•Super-easy user-interface with direct access
•No confusing menus
•High-resolution 7" colour TFT display
•Individual LCD displays per channel, DCA and Bus
•Full dynamics and EQ per channel, busses and matrices
•Adjustable line-delays on all inputs and outputs
•Virtual FX rack with 8 FX slots
•Powerful scene management for shows
•On-board recorder for uncompressed WAV files on USB flash drive
•Remote editor software to control via USB or Ethernet
•Extensive channel strip controls with user-definable control sections
•Connections to BEHRINGER P-16 personal monitoring system
•AES/EBU stereo digital output and full MIDI implementation
•Super-compact and lightweight
•$2,500 USD**
Yeah, it might be easy to dismiss based on its nameplate (I've owned a DDX3216 for 7 years and love that mixer, BTW). But didn't Uli buy Midas/KlarkTeknik? Could this be a result of that marriage?
The introduction of the DDX3216 brought about the ADA8000. I wonder if this new mixer will also result in the release of other new goodies that have been as useful. The 48 channel digital snake option sounds interesting, as does the built-in and FW-based connectivity.
Jeff Wheeler:
I do not agree that a mixer with 6 AUX sends is remotely "in the league" of the LS9. If it is possible to convert mix buses into more AUXes, especially with convenient stereo IEM panning and AFL, I might change my mind. I guess we'll have to wait and see if the feature set evolves before product launch.
As it is currently being touted, I don't see it offering much that the O1V doesn't, except the possible digital snake, head amp recall, and presumably more on-board pre-amps and A/D/A. Those features are not enough to sell me on a product that costs a similar amount to an established product with a "better brand."
$0.02.
Craig Walsh:
Jeff:
I agree the omni-outputs are low relative to an LS9-32 (and two fewer than on an LS916), but I would imagine there will be a simple work-around (e.g. via an ADA8K or the like). According to their page, there are 25 motorized faders, and 32 insert points with 16 bus inserts. This alone puts it way ahead of the 01V96. I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the "brand," but I think we'll have to see how this thing is laid out before just dismissing it off-hand. For example, it says it has "total recall." I could be wrong on this, but I believe this means the channel trims are also "full recall." This is supported by the following: "Fully programmable, high-end mic preamps." Now high-end is debatable, but fully programmable would imply recallable trim. This also would put this desk way ahead of the O1V96 and the Presonus units.
My own sense is that IF folks can get beyond the nameplate, this will offer some serious competition to other offerings in that price range. However, it's a BIG if. Their DDX3216 was/is a far more capable desk than the original O1V, but Behringer could not compete in that price range. We'll see how this one does.
Adrian Genovesio:
Jeff Wheeler wrote on Sat, 20 November 2010 13:24
As it is currently being touted, I don't see it offering much that the O1V doesn't, except the possible digital snake, head amp recall, and presumably more on-board pre-amps and A/D/A. Those features are not enough to sell me on a product that costs a similar amount to an established product with a "better brand."
$0.02.
Realistically, What people are looking for in there small format digital mixers these days are those things that you specified, along with it sounding good of course, so I think you are just disproving your point. I think that the people who can accept using a brand that has a bad rep, will find themselves never looking back for a second on there decision to buy the Behringer over the Yamaha. This mixer will definitely be in competition with the 01V and studio live.
Tony "T" Tissot:
Craig Walsh wrote on Sat, 20 November 2010 09:54
Yeah, it might be easy to dismiss based on its nameplate
Yes it is.
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