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[John Roberts {JR}]

Bob Josjor wrote on Sat, 06 November 2010 08:29

I am never too proud to admit when I'm wrong.  Let me re-phrase my statement:   "Behringer? Well, I would challenge you to find a LOT of true pro's that have any in the rack that they truly depend on." As for my statement about the high failure rates, that is taken from several Behringer dealers throughout the nation via honest replies they gave at an independant-music-store-owner-only web forum I am a member of. Sorry, but when you can buy their "pro" audio products at Walmart, it simply doesn't inspire confidence.  http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=Behr inger&ic=48_0&Find=Find&search_constraint=0

Believe me when I say I have no love for Behringer. Them being sold in Walmart is certainly reason for dealers to question their loyalty to dealers.

There is no dispute that they are targeting low end consumers. Their product seems about right for Walmart who has been flirting with too cheap to work right for years.

A 40% failure rate would not be tolerated by Walmart either. Some of the worst of the weak sister SKUs have been identified and discussed here and about, but entry level customers are not very discerning, and haven't reached the show must go on part of their career yet.

JR

[Howell Repaja]

Thanks for your info JR, this can help a lot for a starter like me.

[John Roberts {JR}]

Howell Repaja wrote on Sat, 06 November 2010 18:56

Thanks for your info JR, this can help a lot for a starter like me.

If you can't afford the better new dbx vs new behringer consider buying better quality used gear.

or not...

No simple answers

JR

[Duane Massey]

If the situation calls for it a properly installed FBX is a useful tool. I have found the majority of complaints about them are caused by improper understanding of the set-up procedures, coupled with bad (IMHO) instructions in the manuals.

No doubt the majority of applications can be handled quite adequately with a 1/3 EQ, but the 1/60th filters in most FBX's are much better at surgically removing the offending frequency.

FBX should be a last resort, not a first-choice device.

If you have a decent knowledge of sound equipment I'd suggest 1 of the following for mobile DJ operation:

DBX DRPA+
BSS DS26 or DS24, depending upon your system
Behringer Ultradrive

I have used (and will continue to use) some Behringer products, but the analog crossovers in their line are pretty much unusable, as the cut/boost range is only 8db.

The build quality of the DBX vs Behringer is an issue (DBX is superior), but the Behringer is useable if you have few options.

I do continue to see the Composer Pro units in FOH racks and some studios for secondary apps.

[Guy Johnson]

Berhinger and DBX work OK.

DBX better IMHO ... and yes, they're a bit noisy if you're not careful with gain structure.

Feedback destroyers work ... bearing in mind they are just another tool ...
~ Good for catching feedback from mike-wavers and cuppers.
~ Good for people not used to mics and feedback.
~ Good for tidying up a sound system which is not far from feeding back if the customer wants More Volume.

One thing I like is taming bass-feedback, allowing a warmer tone than a 1/3rd octave graphic / desk Eq would allow. I like that a lot, especially with some vocals and many bassier acoustic instruments.