Jonathan Ladner wrote on Wed, 03 November 2010 08:21 |
So there goes the dog with it's tail tucked underneath.
I've been on the PSW forums long enough to understand the philosophy only the experienced can convey. That's why I like the information I gain here. I really do appreciate the input.
It also appears that a permanent install will not be the best solution here. I stopped by the venue yesterday evening to evaluate once more; good thing! Coincidence; Maybe? There is a big screen that is rolled down behind the stage during big games and the projector is located stage front where eye bolts are positioned. There's also a huge A/C duct just in front of where the proposed mains were to be hung. Needless to say, the speakers would be in field of view of screen once positioned correctly. Another problem, there is no room behind the sound booth for a mixer none the less it would be a pain in the ass to go around to adjust. It just won't work with existing setup. There is no room for FOH out front nor will it be practical since there is no one to run it.
I know the owner is at least interested in investing in a PA for bands. He wants to make it easier for bands to more less show up, bring only the minimum equipment required and play. Yet he also wants something that doesn't have to be moved every time with maybe the exception of stage monitors. I certainly understand and appreciate his thoughts and I most definitely concur. Besides, it's also a good bargaining tool for bringing bands in.
So what is a good solution? Should I just leave the existing equipment as is and use it only for DJ or should I try and utilize some of it? I want to at least give him an idea of what it going to cost to do it "reasonably priced" right. I'm all ears.
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Hello Jonathan,
Unfortunately, you're experiencing what most of us that do installs, have known for many years. That the Bar Owner wants the best of both Worlds. He wants to generate income from hosting Music Acts, yet, he does not want to spend any money to make it a comfortable, easy place for Musicians to perform.
His wanting to be a sports bar, host a DJ, and provide Live Music Acts in his venue is a great idea, except that they all tend to suffer in a venue that does not have the capability to provide comfortably, for all three forms of Entertainment.
Many Bars are limited in their ability to provide for a clean, confortable, and appropriate setup based on the size and layout of the building. This Bar's layout is no exception.
In order for the Bar to be viable performance venue, the Bar Owner will need to make concessions. Hiring a Professional Sound/Video Company would be the first step in making a concession, something he will probably not do.
My advice is to find another place to perform, somewhere, where Live Performance is important to the Club Owner. You'll be happy, the Group will be happy and hopefully, the Bar Owner will be happy to have you and your Group perform.
Hammer
ps. If I had a dollar for every poorly "designed" Live Performance Venue....it still wouldn't equal the amount of Bar/Club Owners that have high expectations and tight pocket-books.