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Adam Akers

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cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« on: October 08, 2010, 01:23:31 am »

I am looking to build a bunch of my own 4 conductor speaker wire, and am looking for a place to purchase 500' - 1000' of 12-4 sjo type wire,  I would be happy with 13-4 as well.  do any of you have any places that a guy can get wire cheap under $1/ft

Thanks in advance
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Jason Lavoie

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Re: cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 10:55:46 pm »

ok. let's start with "what country are you in?"
then narrow it down a bit more..
do you prefer to buy online? shipping on 12/4 is expensive, so local suppliers are key in this case..


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Tim Padrick

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Re: cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 02:32:26 am »

If you can't find a good price locally, try Cameltraders.com

Or get ready-made cables from Audiopile.net

Brad Weber

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Re: cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 12:01:13 pm »

Adam Akers wrote on Fri, 08 October 2010 01:23

I am looking to build a bunch of my own 4 conductor speaker wire, and am looking for a place to purchase 500' - 1000' of 12-4 sjo type wire,  I would be happy with 13-4 as well.

Keep in mind that there is a difference between four conductors and two twisted pairs.
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Silas Pradetto

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Re: cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2010, 10:46:21 am »

Brad Weber wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 12:01

Adam Akers wrote on Fri, 08 October 2010 01:23

I am looking to build a bunch of my own 4 conductor speaker wire, and am looking for a place to purchase 500' - 1000' of 12-4 sjo type wire,  I would be happy with 13-4 as well.

Keep in mind that there is a difference between four conductors and two twisted pairs.


For high-ish voltage speaker lines, twisted pair really isn't going to matter. I find ordinary 4-conductor cord works fine.

If 2-pair 12 gauge wire were to be used, it would be the fattest stuff you'd ever seen, with a ton of wadding in there to keep it round. It would be quite awkward. Laughing
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Re: cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2010, 01:46:44 pm »

Silas Pradetto wrote on Wed, 01 December 2010 10:46

For high-ish voltage speaker lines, twisted pair really isn't going to matter. I find ordinary 4-conductor cord works fine.

Twisting can make a difference if there might be other audio runs with or near the speaker cable.

Silas Pradetto wrote on Wed, 01 December 2010 10:46

If 2-pair 12 gauge wire were to be used, it would be the fattest stuff you'd ever seen, with a ton of wadding in there to keep it round. It would be quite awkward. Laughing

http://www.westpenn-wpw.com/pdfs/SpeakerCables.pdf.  Look at Page 25 (the last page), eight 12AWG twisted pairs in one jacket.
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Re: cheap 12-4 speaker wire
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2010, 04:14:56 pm »

Brad Weber wrote on Wed, 01 December 2010 13:46

Silas Pradetto wrote on Wed, 01 December 2010 10:46

For high-ish voltage speaker lines, twisted pair really isn't going to matter. I find ordinary 4-conductor cord works fine.

Twisting can make a difference if there might be other audio runs with or near the speaker cable.

Are you saying it would help the speaker cable's signal, or allow less leakage into surrounding cables?

I've still never seen twisted pair speaker cable used in any real setting.

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Silas Pradetto wrote on Wed, 01 December 2010 10:46

If 2-pair 12 gauge wire were to be used, it would be the fattest stuff you'd ever seen, with a ton of wadding in there to keep it round. It would be quite awkward. Laughing

http://www.westpenn-wpw.com/pdfs/SpeakerCables.pdf.  Look at Page 25 (the last page), eight 12AWG twisted pairs in one jacket.


Twisted pairs of that large a gauge works way better in high-pair configurations, as less wadding is needed to make the cable round. That 8-pair cable isn't much different than standard socapex, really, except that it's twisted. The OD is about the same.

PS- I used to work for a division of West Penn wire, specifically a factory that made some of their Cat5 cable. That has no bearing on our discussion, though, just a tidbit of information. Very Happy
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