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[Chris Tate]

Hello Fellow Labsters,

I'm looking into Festival Matrix options for our up coming summer season and was wondering if anyone knows of something off the shelf that is capable of providing 8 AES outputs as well as a combination of AES and analogue inputs.

Traditionally we have used Midas XL88's but with the proliferation of mainly digital consoles lately and the fact that we run DLP's over our systems, a digital solution makes sense to me.

It would be fantastic if the unit was a minimum of 8 x 8 like the XL88, but with a choice of analogue or AES for each input. outputs could all be AES.....though it would be nice if there were a couple of analogue outs as well....

I've looked through a few threads and found people using Ashly etc. I'm pretty sure I'm looking for something that's not quite what anyone makes at present although a few are close..... I'm sure there are units designed for broadcast work, but I really think that they would be a bit over the top i/o wise.

Any suggestions and advice would be fantastic

Cheers:)

[Dustin Reynolds]

I see a ton of companies using the Dolby Lake Processor.  I'm not totally up on the different configurations but I believe it has 8 AES IN/OUTS and a combination of 4 analog card slots with 4 IN or OUTs on each slot.

Very flexible piece of equipment.

db-

[Chris Tate]

Hey thanks Dustin,

The DLP would be a nice easy solution but the main problem with using fully carded DLP's is that they aren't manufactured any more and I'm a bit loathed to go down the LG-Lake route as it would involve multiple units and Dante. I guess this could end up being the answer, but I'd really love to find a simple one box solution:)

[A Man]

Would something like this work?

http://www.broadcast-devices.com/BDI%20Audio%20Products.html

[Chris Tate]

Thanks Jon,

I'm looking over that info now

[Curt Sorensen]

Hi,
Not sure when you say eight AES whether you want eight legs of audio, or sixteen. It may be more than you want, but Metric Halos' ULN8 or LIO8 might be worth considering. Add the Network Sound IO panel for xlr's.

[David Buehler]

You could go the route with a D-show ala how robert scovil describes in one of the Digi Webinars

D-Show FOH Rack using a Tablet PC to control it, leaving the Stage rack and surface at the shop.

To pull this off you need:
1 FOH Rack with 1 I/Ox expansion Card and 2-3 DSP cards

Additionally you could achieve more inputs using the MADI card, with and a RME ADI-6432 AES to Madi Converter

This gives you a theoretical 18 analog + 5 AES pairs Inputs and 22 Analog outputs and 5 AES pairs output...

Additionally you could achieve more inputs using the MADI card, with and a RME ADI-6432 AES to Madi Converter which could yeild 18 analog + 37 AES pairs and the 22 Analog outputs and 37 AES Pair outputs.. If you're just using the DLPs for system zoning and EQing, and not crossovers, you could even eliminate using it in the signal chain.

If so, couple this with the Digital Snake and a Stage rack onstage, and you can handle the AES and analog output to the stage right upto your amp racks.

A similar solution could be configured using a mixrack system too.

[Chris Tate]

Hey Curt, just looking for 4 pairs..... like a straight drop in for an XL88 but digital:) but also with an analogue option so I'll look into the Metric Halo thing....

I'd never heard of Broadcast devices before, but the kit on their page looks like it could be just the ticket!

That's what I love about this place!!

For the record, the festival set-ups we do over here are dual stage, 3 hang systems + infill etc...

10 x 10 would really be the ultimate but we get by with 8 x 8...

Thanks heaps for the replies so far, much appreciated  

[Antti Rintamaki]

How about Yamaha DME24 or 64?

AnttiR

[Ken Freeman]

We have been using a DBX 4800 and an XL-88 along with a small AES broadcast router. In the typical 4 way drive (L+R+Subs+Front Fills) this allows up to get two analog and two digital solutions on line at the same time. I do put a 1/3 octave in line with the analog drive so that each engineer can EQ to suit.  For the digital, we use the second set of EQ's in the 4800.  This is built mostly with existing resources, so might look a little different if we started from scratch.  We are thinking that a couple of BSS Londons will be a good solution for the next go around along with the fiber drive.  next year.

Ken

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