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Robert "Void" Caprio

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$20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« on: July 27, 2010, 02:20:52 pm »

I know topics such as this are so vague as to be aggravating but I need a bit of help concerning a lighting rig. And yes, I did a search, in addition to scouring the forums.

Our budget is about $20k. This would be for an install in a rock club with a 30' X 24' stage, 12' ceiling height from the stage. There are trusses (pic) running across the ceiling parallel to the stage which I expect we could put to some use.

We'd like to stick with LEDs as much as possible. Wondering about using a PC as a controller or a standalone unit... thoughts on that?

We're looking for as exciting a show as we can muster within our budget so let me know what you guys think. BTW, new or used is fine.

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Todd Black

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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 07:00:02 pm »

for movers, i would suggest the Elation 250 LED spot units. I just saw an install with 8 of them and it looks great.

Control, look into Chamsys Magic Q software with a PC wing.
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 07:02:22 pm »

That looks like the roof trussing.  Before getting crazy and hanging a bunch of stuff from it, you should make sure it's good for the load ratings you plan to put up there.  Of course with LED pars and such, it shouldn't be an issue as they are lightweight.  But if you get your hands on some moving heads, they can get heavy quickly.

Computer based controllers are great for club use, and in some cases easier than dedicated boards.  All depends on what 'look' you are trying to achieve.  $20K will go a long way.  It will go even further if you consider used traditional gear instead of LED stuff.
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 07:33:21 pm »

House band or one-night shows? Do you have an in-house LD or just want to program standard stuff for average use? How big is the club?

You can certainly get a decent show for $ 20K IF you keep your fixtures balanced in terms of brightness. Avoid the no-name fixtures if possible, but be prepared to still have to deal with the occasional bad fixture.

Where are you located?
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 08:07:44 pm »

Duane,

One night shows. National acts, locals. We'll have an in house LD. Club is 12,000 sq ft, split down the middle... stage side is about 80' X 40'... give or take a few feet. Located on Long Island n Patchogue.

Brian,

Yep, roof trussing. We have an engineer coming in to spec out load ratings and all.

Todd,

Thanks for the info. Seems like everyone is into the Chamsys Magic Q. Will check it out.

Thanks for the info guys.
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 08:25:10 pm »

"Duh" on my part about location.....

Control is a matter of personal preference; as long as you have someone in-house to deal with it AND it has enough muscle to meet your needs, either hardware or software will work.

Pretty good-sized room, so you'll have to decide which functions you really need. Brightness, coverage, or pizazz, you probably won't get all three but you can get a decent balance with room to grow.

I'm going out to sit in with some friends, but I'll throw together a suggestion list for you. Don't worry, I don't sell gear, just enjoy playing with the stuff..
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2010, 07:10:43 am »

You should really look into Lightjockey with a touch screen and stay away from Chamsys.
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 08:10:37 am »

JohnRoss wrote on Wed, 28 July 2010 06:10

You should really look into Lightjockey with a touch screen and stay away from Chamsys.


JR,

OK... why is that? Any particular recommendations for a touch screen?
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 10:07:17 am »

um....curious as to why you say this, seeing as how lightjockey is by far one of the worst lighting software platforms ever invented....
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Re: $20K to spend on lights... suggestions?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 06:55:45 pm »

JohnRoss wrote on Wed, 28 July 2010 06:10

You should really look into Lightjockey with a touch screen and stay away from Chamsys.


are you serious? why? chamsys is a well developed widely accepted platform with excellent scalability and most LDs already know how to program it since its essentially the same as hog.
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