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Tim McCulloch

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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2010, 10:26:23 pm »

Mac Kerr wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 21:20

Rick Stansby wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 22:08

I want to get honest answers.  I don't see the benefit of telling someone to do a search, without pointing out a specific thread that is relevant.
I have noticed that you tend to point people towards answers.  I have also seen numerous posts that don't address the topic, in favor of insulting the OP and telling him to do a search.  I feel that these posts simply increase the noise to signal ratio on this board.  I think it should be implied that anyone who asks a question here has tried to search for the answer and failed.  It is quicker to ignore a question than it is to reply with no relevant content.

I am talking about the replies that simply state: "This has been discussed a thousand times, do a search."  As opposed to replies that say: "This has been discussed before, I found this thread that is relevant (insert link here)"



This is not a Wiki. It is a discussion forum, and people who drop in to ask a question and expect someone else to do the work of finding it are likely to not get the answer they want. How about the inverse, where the questioner says "These are the threads I've looked through (with links) and I think my question is actually different, for this reason"? That is no more than they are expecting from someone else to solve their problem.

It is tiresome to see the same question get asked over and over with no effort at all to see if the question has already been answered.

Mac




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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2010, 11:34:00 pm »

Mac Kerr wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 21:20

Rick Stansby wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 22:08

I want to get honest answers.  I don't see the benefit of telling someone to do a search, without pointing out a specific thread that is relevant.
I have noticed that you tend to point people towards answers.  I have also seen numerous posts that don't address the topic, in favor of insulting the OP and telling him to do a search.  I feel that these posts simply increase the noise to signal ratio on this board.  I think it should be implied that anyone who asks a question here has tried to search for the answer and failed.  It is quicker to ignore a question than it is to reply with no relevant content.

I am talking about the replies that simply state: "This has been discussed a thousand times, do a search."  As opposed to replies that say: "This has been discussed before, I found this thread that is relevant (insert link here)"



This is not a Wiki. It is a discussion forum, and people who drop in to ask a question and expect someone else to do the work of finding it are likely to not get the answer they want. How about the inverse, where the questioner says "These are the threads I've looked through (with links) and I think my question is actually different, for this reason"? That is no more than they are expecting from someone else to solve their problem.

It is tiresome to see the same question get asked over and over with no effort at all to see if the question has already been answered.

Mac




I'd recommend a compromise, because I agree with both of you. If I saw someone ask a question I knew could be found on the site, I'd probably just post, "This has been covered. Try doing a search for _______."

That way, if they did try to search, but didn't know to use "rack porn", for instance, now they have a good chance of finding it with their own work. If they didn't search, well, I haven't done their work for them, either.
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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2010, 11:43:59 pm »

Gerry Seymour wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 20:34




That way, if they did try to search, but didn't know to use "rack porn", for instance, now they have a good chance of finding it with their own work. If they didn't search, well, I haven't done their work for them, either.


That is a great example Gerry.
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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2010, 11:46:49 pm »

benjamin fisher wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 17:25

I really dont know what I need to do. I currently run sound as my main source of income, with a small SOS rig, and mostly bar bands. I would like to be busier, and work more, but I'm not sure what I need to do. I dont have the funds to get an SRX/Itech rig or similar, and of course bars/bands arent very understanding of how to properly pay a sound guy around here (Central Ohio). I have an older friend who does the same, but has much more gear and can do larger shows. He asks me to help him out from time to time, or will pass a gig to me if he is already booked. But, it just doesnt help enough. I'm 25 years old, and all of my experience has been for my own bands or gigs, aside from working with small local bands for the last 2 years.I'm not opposed to touring, house sound, school, or anything else that will "better" me in this industry. What do you suggest? How did you "larger" guys get to where you are?

I've searched, and read a few similar threads to get some ideas. If you think I've stupidly slacked off on my research, feel free not to post, opposed to telling me I'm an idiot. Thanks.


If you want to get work on bigger shows you should try to keep in touch with providers in your area.  Let them know you are available, and what you have been doing.  Don't bother them, but don't be afraid to contact them from time to time to remind them that you are available.
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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2010, 11:49:03 pm »

Let me make it clear that I dont want anyone to do my research for me. I did search, I did read threads and articles. I did look elsewhere, aside from this forum.

Just forget that I even asked.
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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2010, 11:51:15 pm »

Thanks Rick, thats the best advice I've gotten so far from making this post. Glad someone understands where I was/am coming from.

We can close this thread though if its too much of a hassle for people to type some advice opposed to typing something else that is of no help.
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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 11:51:18 pm »

benjamin fisher wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 22:49


Just forget that I even asked.



Asked what?
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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 11:58:02 pm »

benjamin fisher wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 23:51

We can close this thread though if its too much of a hassle for people to type some advice opposed to typing something else that is of no help.


That's the thing about Internet forums, the thread doesn't always go the way you wanted it to. This one will stay up because it has information about how to ask a question. What makes you think you are the only one who can benefit from a thread you started, or that the benefit will be in the form of an answer to your question?Sorry you took it so personally. Better luck next time.

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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2010, 12:24:52 am »

Make friends with local larger production companies. Offer to do freelance work for them. Make it known that you have a smaller production company, and are available to work when they are booked. Also offer to pass work off to them that you cannot handle.

Makes everyone happy, and keeps everyone working.



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Re: Where Do I Go?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2010, 12:27:57 am »

Evan Kirkendall wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 23:24

Make friends with local larger production companies. Offer to do freelance work for them. Make it known that you have a smaller production company, and are available to work when they are booked. Also offer to pass work off to them that you cannot handle.

Makes everyone happy, and keeps everyone working.



Evan

Good idea on the trading. Never thought of that, but I do occasionally get gigs that are a bit beyond me.
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