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Daniel Nickleski

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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2010, 10:22:19 pm »

benjamin fisher wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:11

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?



All on the back with us. We do lots of outdoor festivals so we can put the front rack door on before we tarp for the night. Feel like the racks are better protected from the elements that way. Also it looks WAY cleaner to have no cables in front of the racks. When the show is done unpatch the back of the racks and roll them out of the way. Gives you more room to wrap up cables.

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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2010, 10:29:05 pm »

Daniel Nickleski wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:22

benjamin fisher wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:11

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?



All on the back with us. We do lots of outdoor festivals so we can put the front rack door on before we tarp for the night. Feel like the racks are better protected from the elements that way. Also it looks WAY cleaner to have no cables in front of the racks. When the show is done unpatch the back of the racks and roll them out of the way. Gives you more room to wrap up cables.



I agree on ease and cleanliness. Its how I planned to do it when I get around to making patch panels, I just saw a few people with them in front and found it interesting and wondered why
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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2010, 10:37:47 pm »

I do a lot of tight stages and the back of the rack is hard to access at a show more often than not so I put my in/out panels on the front of my rack.  

I can't remember the last show I was able to see my amps from FOH!

Not saying it's the right way for everyone by any means, just throwing out why someone might do it the other way.
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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2010, 10:44:25 pm »

Steve Hurt wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:37

I do a lot of tight stages and the back of the rack is hard to access at a show more often than not so I put my in/out panels on the front of my rack.  

I can't remember the last show I was able to see my amps from FOH!

Not saying it's the right way for everyone by any means, just throwing out why someone might do it the other way.



If you find it easier to have them in the front that is cool. I think the key is what works for you. We are on mostly portable stages so access to the back isn't much of an issue.

And I'm not saying you can see the racks from FOH, but you can see them while stand in front of them backstage. I like the clean look with no cable mess and I have even had a client or two comment on the clean look.
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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2010, 01:13:38 am »

"All on the back with us. We do lots of outdoor festivals so we can put the front rack door on before we tarp for the night. Feel like the racks are better protected from the elements that way. Also it looks WAY cleaner to have no cables in front of the racks. When the show is done unpatch the back of the racks and roll them out of the way. Gives you more room to wrap up cables."


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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2010, 01:16:08 am »

Yeah, nice job.   That is the way to add lighting to a sound rig (minimally, with effectiveness - is that a word?).


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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2010, 08:06:46 am »

I am with Steve, it seems that a lot of gigs we are pushed into a corner  and access for me to the back of a rack, at a lot of gigs, can be difficult,

That is why I opted to make mine all front access, I kept the panels at bottom bottome to try to keep the mess down and be able to hide excess under the rack if possible. It has worked ok so far.

Hey Matt, do you remember which rack you built first? I was wondering if that drove the decision  to move down or up?

I am not picking on you at all, I am just very curious as I have seen both systems.  Mine have always been at the bottom so I can hide cords and such under the bottom amp. The power distro in the racks always ends up so bulky, I try to put it low to minimize cord length out of the case and bends.

Like I said, I leave the backs on as it is one less cover to find and If I use "help" they cant get in the back and plug in wrong Smile

Great comment Lee!!
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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2010, 01:36:33 pm »

OK you inspired me to take some pics of a few things.  Here is my club rig/monitor rack for the A system.  It's not pristine - the wires are  a bit unruly - but it's fast and easy.  Let's call her BERTHA like her momma before her.  Her momma had heavy QSC's on the bottom and a Mackie on top but thanks to this forum I have seen the light and moved uptown to see the Wizard.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackFrontOPEN.jpg

At least the speakons are on the front even if you do have to dig aound back to plug the mics in.  The lids are "guillotine" style and by far the quickest and easiest solution.  They don't take up much room when you remove them and they are fine for poeple like me who do all my own work and never let gorillas near my junk.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackFrontCLOSED.jpg

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackBackOPEN.jpg

Just grab the handles - tilt it back on the wheels and go.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackBackHANDLES.jpg

Now - onward to another item that comes in handy for people like me who carry several guitars to every gig.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GuitarRackCLOSED.jpg

That's a standard Strat case with the guitar rack next to it.


Pull the guillotine cover off and it's ready to erect.  Laughing

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GtRackSTEP1.jpg

It's like the one I bought from Viking Cases years ago but I've modified it.  It's now smaller - lighter - sturdier - and a little cheaper too.  

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GuitarRackEMPTY.jpg

Finally with a few geetarz...

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GTrackWgts.jpg
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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2010, 01:49:14 pm »

Did you position the head of the guitar to block your plate or did that just work out Laughing
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Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2010, 06:02:44 pm »

benjamin fisher wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 22:11

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?



I put all the panels in the front of the rack as most of the time the rack is pushed into a corner or up against the wall.

One of these, days I'm going to upgrade the 8sp to a 12sp and put some rack fans in the top to suck the air out and i would be able to leave the back door on (plus there is going to be 3 amps per rack).
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