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Tom Reid

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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2010, 11:45:37 pm »

Sound check your vocals first and your drums last.
Then any mic you have in your kit will work.
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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 02:10:04 am »

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Tom Reid wrote

Sound check your vocals first and your drums last.


Two great answers

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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 06:45:02 am »

Tom Reid wrote on Mon, 22 March 2010 22:45

Sound check your vocals first and your drums last.
Then any mic you have in your kit will work.


Or, sound check your drums first, then turn them off.  Bring them in as needed once the band is playing a tune.

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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 09:09:50 am »

I'd use anything there is. But, I'd rather not use '58s.

I'll line-check & sound-check whoever makes some noise first, me!
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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 09:13:27 am »

Tim Padrick wrote on Thu, 25 March 2010 06:45

Tom Reid wrote on Mon, 22 March 2010 22:45

Sound check your vocals first and your drums last.
Then any mic you have in your kit will work.


Or, sound check your drums first, then turn them off.  Bring them in as needed once the band is playing a tune.


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My choices would be:

OM7

BETA57

EV N/D967

There is a big pile of variable factors having to do with just what will make a vocal "pop out". More often than not, changing the singer is the only thing that will help, and that is usually not an option.

Good luck.

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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2010, 09:23:21 am »

Dave Dermont wrote on Thu, 25 March 2010 08:13

Tim Padrick wrote on Thu, 25 March 2010 06:45

Tom Reid wrote on Mon, 22 March 2010 22:45

Sound check your vocals first and your drums last.
Then any mic you have in your kit will work.


Or, sound check your drums first, then turn them off.  Bring them in as needed once the band is playing a tune.


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My choices would be:

OM7

BETA57

EV N/D967

There is a big pile of variable factors having to do with just what will make a vocal "pop out". More often than not, changing the singer is the only thing that will help, and that is usually not an option.

Good luck.




Yeah but the singer has to really want to change, and that can takes years of drugs and therapy.

I use SM86's across the front.
Unless the drummer only has one eye in the middle of his forehead.
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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2010, 01:27:40 pm »

I'm new and only have two mics to choose from so far. I own a few SM58's and one Beta 57A. The 57A works best for my purposes with people who are mostly not trained vocalists. I'm doing non-profit presentation people for the most part. The 57A seems much more sensitive, picking up vocals even if they stray a foot or two from the mic. I think for music vocals however, the SM58's aren't as bright and they pick up just fine when used at a consistent distance from the mouth. I seem to do more EQ with the 58's than the 57A either way.

veering off topic slightly... Based on the results of this thread, I'm gonna pick up at least one each of the e835 and the OM7 since I want to do more work with bands and having what people like to use will help facilitate this. I also need a drum kit. I'm looking at a couple of D1's for kicks and SM57's for most everything else.
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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2010, 01:45:00 pm »

Brian "beeherd" Jones wrote on Thu, 25 March 2010 10:27

I also need a drum kit. I'm looking at a couple of D1's for kicks and SM57's for most everything else.
You will get a lot of other suggestions for drum mics. (You can search). Many are smaller, and easier to deploy than 57s.

(You'll end up one day with 50+ mics in your kit, nothing wrong with 6 or 10 of them being 57s - they always come in handy. If you provide audio for lots of folks, rather than just one band, they will be generally accepted.)
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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2010, 10:40:16 am »

The other day I went to a concert of The Alan Parsons Project.

Guess what vocal mics they had? Plain '58's.

Despite my feeling that much of the program material  was heavily doctored (some vocals were too tight and tidy), they did actually sing into those mics.

The music was great, the SPL loud within the best taste, the mix crystal clear, and the BE was a fine guy named Kevin Kennedy, who never heard about the LAB before.


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Re: your top 3 - vocal mics that cut through a loud/dense mix
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2010, 08:57:58 pm »

Brian "beeherd" Jones wrote on Thu, 25 March 2010 13:27

I also need a drum kit. I'm looking at a couple of D1's for kicks and SM57's for most everything else.



I hope you mean "D4" or "D6".  A D1 on kick would be...disappointing.

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