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[Dave Rickard]

benjamin fisher wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 21:50

Dave Rickard wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 21:35 Alan Hamilton wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:51 If the extra lighting isn't paying for itself and making a decent ROI and is also requiring more time to go into show setup/strike then I'm not sure the callback matters or is even desired. That's hard to do when you start by "giving it away to get in the door". Yeah but what if that makes the difference between low profit job and no job?

When all is said and done, low profit CAN mean you paid to be there.  

If you paid to be there, you'd have made more money staying at home.

But staying at home doesn't lead to better gigs.

When you need to "normalize" your price, that can lead to no job also.

That doesn't lead to better gigs either.

10 $1,000 gigs pays more than 20 $500 gigs, or 50 $200 gigs, or 100 $100 gigs.

Only you can decide your business plan.  You have to draw your own line.

[John Shelbourn]

[Randall "Btm Fdr" Cook]

I'm looking to get 8 LED fixtures.  I currently use 8 par56 300w cans.  I am looking at either the Colorkey 1w par 64 OR the OPTI RGB 1w.  Which do you think is better overall?

[Tim Weaver]

I have 4 Chauvet Colorpalette 2's that I put up on 2 trees. No controller, just plug in and go. Bands love them because they are not hot, and I love them because they draw no power. And venue's love them because they can see the band and they are LED's so they have a wow factor even though I'm not doing anything fancy with them. Sometimes I'll put 2 on a slow color scroll and 2 on full RGB for the singer. I do this with the panel control. I don't have a separate controller.

[Adam Schaible]

I use these and they work well for the same reasons as above.  I do use DMX but either way.

[Dick Rees]

benjamin fisher wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 22:50

Dave Rickard wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 21:35 Alan Hamilton wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:51 If the extra lighting isn't paying for itself and making a decent ROI and is also requiring more time to go into show setup/strike then I'm not sure the callback matters or is even desired. That's hard to do when you start by "giving it away to get in the door". Yeah but what if that makes the difference between low profit job and no job?

I'm gonna have a little fun here.

Back in the middle of the last century when I was in high school, there were girls we all new who would do anything for attention.  They were out every Saturday night regardless of the profit margin.  If I may paraphrase your statement, they didn't know the difference between a low profit job and a  (rhymes with no) job.  You might as well change your name from Ben Fisher to Ben Dover.

And to further address your "reasoning":  substitute "poke in the eye with a sharp stick" for "low profit job".  Which is better, a poke in the eye with a sharp stick or no poke in the eye?

Just havin' fun........

[David Morison]

Dick Rees wrote on Mon, 28 December 2009 16:43

I tried using matches, but they're hard to light when they keep moving around and even then they tend not to stay lit for very long before going out.

You're not using enough gasoline on the band members if you need more than one match per.


David.