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Gun Nuts....The Girandoni Rifle
Scott Raymond:
If you haven't heard of it an interesting story relating to Lewis and Clark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI&feature=player_embedded
Scott
Chris Carpenter:
--- Quote from: Scott Raymond on March 08, 2011, 10:26:20 AM ---If you haven't heard of it an interesting story relating to Lewis and Clark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI&feature=player_embedded
Scott
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So... primitive shock and awe?
Bennett Prescott:
Being able to reload quickly in those days must have been a very big deal, although I'm not sure how much a projectile being able to penetrate a 1" pine board is worth. Pine isn't exactly hard stuff, that's significant penetration but nothing compared to powder weapons of the time. Today's relatively small caliber handguns can achieve that easily, once you get into real calibers like 9mm or .45ACP you're looking at 5"+ of penetration in plywood.
Lee Buckalew:
--- Quote from: Scott Raymond on March 08, 2011, 10:26:20 AM ---If you haven't heard of it an interesting story relating to Lewis and Clark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI&feature=player_embedded
Scott
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This is a fascinating gun. There are some large caliber air rifles made today that can be used to hunt big game.
The rough equivalents for the Girandoni are:
.46 caliber round ball, lead = approximately 146 grains in weight
velocity of a modern .45ACP = approximately 900 - 1000 feet per second
This equates to about 260 - 325 ft-lbs. of kinetic energy at the muzzle or, right in between a .380 auto and a 9mm parabellum.
Pretty significant for the time given rapid repeater capability.
Fast reloading for a flintlock would be 30 seconds (but usually slower) and a little bit longer for a cap and ball because of having to de-cap and then cap the rifle.
Lee
Riley Casey:
It's more about relative power than absolute. He didn't need to outgun a flintlock musket - just a flint tipped arrow shot from a short bow.
--- Quote from: Bennett Prescott on March 09, 2011, 12:28:22 PM ---Being able to reload quickly in those days must have been a very big deal, although I'm not sure how much a projectile being able to penetrate a 1" pine board is worth. Pine isn't exactly hard stuff, that's significant penetration but nothing compared to powder weapons of the time. Today's relatively small caliber handguns can achieve that easily, once you get into real calibers like 9mm or .45ACP you're looking at 5"+ of penetration in plywood.
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