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Berti Jacobs

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th221
« on: July 03, 2010, 04:18:12 pm »

Hello,

Anybody any experience with this sub?

best regards,
Berti
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Ivan Beaver

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Re: th221
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 04:24:54 pm »

What is your intended application?
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Berti Jacobs

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Re: th221
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 05:54:39 pm »

Hello,
intended application is club sound with
occasional live performance.
Berti,

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Ivan Beaver

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Re: th221
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 06:10:25 pm »

Berti Jacobs wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 17:54

Hello,
intended application is club sound with
occasional live performance.
Berti,




Club sound and live performance mean very different things to different people.  I assume you are talking about an easy listening jazz club here  Rolling Eyes Laughing  Laughing . Maybe you are-maybe you aren't.  You have to remember there are lots of different people who like different styles of music.  You know exactly what you are talking about-we have no idea.

How large is the club (people-square/cubic footage etc)?  Are you trying to cover the whole room-or mainly a specific area?  What sort of space do you have for subs?  What is the location of the subs-is it ideal for open microphones or does some sort of directional array need to be considered? What is the rest of the system (model # and quantity would help here)-how low does it go?

As with any question about an application-the more specific details you can give-the better the results of the question will be.
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Berti Jacobs

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Re: th221
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 12:41:17 pm »

Hello,

no easy listening jazz club, although a standing bass
should be a treat if the th221 lives up to its name...

electronic dance music will be the main thing, so ultra deep
bass need to be reproduced in it's treu sense.

live performance's will be from A to Z all kinds of music,
from the heaviest thrash to more relaxed pop.

venue size; 45 foot wide, 18 feet high, 75 foot length.
stage 45 foot wide,  17 feet deep

top cabs:  (4 per side)
http://www.audio-performance.com/assets/files/touring/8-SK-F -amp.pdf

low/mid cabs: (2 per side)
http://www.audio-performance.com/assets/files/touring/11-LM3 amp.pdf

would a stereo set th221 be a good companion?

thanks,
Berti.
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Ivan Beaver

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 12:56:33 pm »

I would look at the TH812.  It does not go quite as low as the TH221-and is larger-but goes WAY louder-assuming you put the power to it.

1 per side should work well.  2 per side if you really want to get stupid loud.
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Re: th221
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 03:26:32 pm »

Just something to consider.

d&b audiotechnik J-INFRA

http://www.dbaudio.com/en/systems/j_series/j_infra/
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Re: th221
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 04:44:09 pm »

As the resident Ramsdell fanboy it's my duty to inform you of another 21" choice.

http://www.ramsdellproaudio.com/products/subs/BP-SD21.htm

Here's a few big words from the site about a gig they did...

"When six of the BP-SD21 Sub Engines were used at the 2009 FAMU Homecomming Hip Hop Concert for a ten-thousand person audience the engineer, Reuben James, started off the show using six BP-SD21s and eight double 18" subs. However, early in the show he started turning the double 18"s down and the BP-SD21s up. Eventually he left the double 18"s turned off and did the rest of the show, including the main hip hop act ("Plies"), with the six BP-SD21 Sub Engines. Reuben James made a comment to us that he had never heard so much 30 Hz information out of six single enclosures of that size. He loved the unique bass sound they produced. He said that he was 200 feet away and his shirt sleeves were fluttering."

http://www.ramsdellproaudio.com/images/products/Subs/BP-SD21/FAMU/LA-3-15-FAMU-5_thm.jpghttp://www.ramsdellproaudio.com/images/products/largehiq/subs/BP-SD21_FAMU1_lrg.jpg
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