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[Simon Coffin]

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David Morison wrote on Wed, 23 September 2009 23:54 Quote: Simon Coffin wrote on Wed, 23 September 2009 16:12 ...plus firewire ins and outs and it weighs and costs half as much. At this point the StudioLive seems to be a reasonable product at the right price. Seriously, half the price of a MixWiz? At that price it's either a completely stunning deal, or a piece of junk! Here it's the other way around, the Presonus seems to be advertised at about 2-2.5x the price of a MixWiz. If it's the other way round where you are (and it's not complete junk) then I'd jump on that deal.

Dave, I was referring to the price of a Mixwiz 16:2 with 16 Comp/Gates which is a good comparison to the StudioLive feature for feature.  At that point the StudioLive is pretty close to half the price, weighs less, takes up less space and is simpler to setup.

Ciao
Simon  

[David Morison]

Simon Coffin wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 08:45

Dave, I was referring to the price of a Mixwiz 16:2 with 16 Comp/Gates which is a good comparison to the StudioLive feature for feature.  At that point the StudioLive is pretty close to half the price, weighs less, takes up less space and is simpler to setup. Ciao Simon

Aha, that makes sense of it. Sorry, I didn't realise you were including the extra outboard for the MW in the comparison.
Cheers,
David.

[Gene Hardage]

David Morison wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 07:14

Simon Coffin wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 08:45 Dave, I was referring to the price of a Mixwiz 16:2 with 16 Comp/Gates which is a good comparison to the StudioLive feature for feature.  At that point the StudioLive is pretty close to half the price, weighs less, takes up less space and is simpler to setup. Ciao Simon   Aha, that makes sense of it. Sorry, I didn't realise you were including the extra outboard for the MW in the comparison. Cheers, David.

If you're gonna add all the outboard gear prices don't stop there - that's just the tip of the iceburg.  That's why all the new digital boards are so popular.  The fact that this one has the nifty firewire thing for recording just makes it a no brainer for the average Joe who doesn't need a complex hi-end hi-dollar board.

[Tom Bourke]

Jeff Wheeler wrote on Tue, 22 September 2009 11:14

I really don't understand the value of the StudioLive product.  I really don't get what it offers that an O1V doesn't other than the digital snake.  OTOH the O1V has a lot the StudioLive doesn't.

What digital snake?  I was looking for that on the StudioLive's web side and I see no mention of that.

Also this thing is only $200 to $400 less than an 01v96.  Any mixer that close in price is going to be compared.

[Jeff Wheeler]

Tom Bourke wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 10:01

What digital snake?  I was looking for that on the StudioLive's web side and I see no mention of that.

For some reason I thought the patch bay was a module that you could remove.  I must be thinking of something else.

[Bennett Prescott]

Does it have aux-sends-on-fader mode? That would be really useful on a board with many layers and NO MOTORIZED FADERS.

Really, people?

[John Chiara]

Bennett Prescott wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 16:39

Does it have aux-sends-on-fader mode? That would be really useful on a board with many layers and NO MOTORIZED FADERS. Really, people?

I don't get it either.

[John Moore]

the board does not have layers so to speak...when you select a channel, everything is in front of you except aux levels, which comes up when you select one of the auxes...more of a analog layout than typical digital...

[Gene Hardage]

Bennett Prescott wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 16:39

Does it have aux-sends-on-fader mode? That would be really useful on a board with many layers and NO MOTORIZED FADERS. Really, people?

I don't really understand your post very well but if you mean POST fader aux send then yes they all can be switched pre or post - or - does aux-sends-on-fader mode mean something else??  As for the NO MOTORIZED FADERS that keeps coming up - I view that as a good thing.  Why would I want a bunch of stringy-gear things inside my cheap mixer.  I view motorized faders as a potential problem on any board especially a cheap one.  Why does it need motorized faders when it has a way of visually recalling the stored scenes?

This newfangled layout and those who are resistant to it are a bit like the Windows vs. Mac OS arguments that never end.

[David Morison]

Gene Hardage wrote on Thu, 24 September 2009 23:20

or - does aux-sends-on-fader mode mean something else??

Aux send on faders means that instead of the faders being for your main mix only, you can select any aux mix to be displayed on the faders - really requires motorised faders to work though.
The advantage is that you don't have to go through any layers etc to see and adjust your aux mixes - just hit the button to select that aux and there it is on your faders. Although it might not seem like it to an experienced analogue operator, it's even easier than scanning along one row out of multiple aux knobs to see and adjust what's in a mix.

When you're doing things like that, having the faders snap into place to show each and every mix as you select them is pretty much essential, otherwise you have to move them all into place to match the visual indication yourself before you're really in a position to adjust them in a meaningful way. Or, you have to see past the actual position of the faders, which is now just a hangover from the last mix you were adjusting, and use only the visual indicators and adjust the faders of any channels which need changing in relation to those indicators and not in relation to their existing position.

In other words, it chucks away one big benefit of other digital desks.

Cheers,
David.