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Richard Turner:
Is there anything out there now in a box with fly points for horizontal hanging that is less than 16"in height (width when vertical) it seems everyone has gone to making constant curve boxes with 15x100+ degree dispersion.

I'm needing more of a 40x60 to 45 x 75 box that will work for 2-35' throw, 4 boxes total

Lee Buckalew:

--- Quote from: Richard Turner on March 04, 2011, 04:32:12 PM ---Is there anything out there now in a box with fly points for horizontal hanging that is less than 16"in height (width when vertical) it seems everyone has gone to making constant curve boxes with 15x100+ degree dispersion.

I'm needing more of a 40x60 to 45 x 75 box that will work for 2-35' throw, 4 boxes total

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There are quite a few.
First that come to mind are any of the Martin AQ series.  They have rotatable horns so horizontal is easy.  There are a number from other manufacturers as well.

The problem I see is if you really mean 2' - 35' throw you've got an issue.  Is that a 2' throw or 2' in front of the box but xx feet down?

The W8VDQ would be a candidate for close in with differential dispersion characteristics and can have high frequency shading applied to the short throw section only.  Full range or Bi-amp, can be yolk mounted.
It is taller than you indicated though at 20".

Lee

Ivan Beaver:

--- Quote from: Richard Turner on March 04, 2011, 04:32:12 PM ---Is there anything out there now in a box with fly points for horizontal hanging that is less than 16"in height (width when vertical) it seems everyone has gone to making constant curve boxes with 15x100+ degree dispersion.

I'm needing more of a 40x60 to 45 x 75 box that will work for 2-35' throw, 4 boxes total

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One of the thing you have to consider is what is the ACTUAL coverage pattern.  With a small box, you can only have a small horn.  So that means that the pattern control will only be in the higher freq.  And the narrower the desired coverage pattern, the higher the range of freq that can be controlled will be.

Narrow patterns take larger horns to be able to control down to the same freq as wider pattern horns.

You need to look at the polar patterns or directivity graphs to figure out what the actual coverage pattern is at a particular freq.  It is NOT across the bandwidth-despite what marketing will lead you to believe.

Richard Turner:

--- Quote from: Richard Turner on March 04, 2011, 04:32:12 PM ---Is there anything out there now in a box with fly points for horizontal hanging that is less than 16"in height (width when vertical) it seems everyone has gone to making constant curve boxes with 15x100+ degree dispersion.

I'm needing more of a 40x60 to 45 x 75 box that will work for 2-35' throw, 4 boxes total

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pretty much what I am dealing with is a stage in a pub with a ceiling height of 102" I do not want anything hanging anywhere lower than 84" the front of the pie shape stage is about 150 degrees of a circle but theres also a beam cutting across to meet the stage bulkhead close to one side and a door right next to the left hand side of the stage so just mounting trapboxes on wall mounts is not an option as that cannot be done on both sides.

Now if there was a dual 8" line array shaped object with a 60x40 ish horn in it that would work as it would have rigging points of some sort, or a 10" d'appolito type box with rigging points it would also work, I would rather not have to cradle the speakers or build a shelf in front of the stage.

barring that I'm thinking custom made boxes using co axial drivers and bi amp them with a good DSP

Ivan Beaver:

--- Quote from: Richard Turner on March 05, 2011, 08:10:53 AM ---pretty much what I am dealing with is a stage in a pub with a ceiling height of 102" I do not want anything hanging anywhere lower than 84" the front of the pie shape stage is about 150 degrees of a circle but theres also a beam cutting across to meet the stage bulkhead close to one side and a door right next to the left hand side of the stage so just mounting trapboxes on wall mounts is not an option as that cannot be done on both sides.

Now if there was a dual 8" line array shaped object with a 60x40 ish horn in it that would work as it would have rigging points of some sort, or a 10" d'appolito type box with rigging points it would also work, I would rather not have to cradle the speakers or build a shelf in front of the stage.

barring that I'm thinking custom made boxes using co axial drivers and bi amp them with a good DSP

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What type of output level capability are you looking for?  That could be another limiting factor.

If you are considering  coax drivers, it is going to be hard to find any with tyour specified pattern-they are generally going to be much wider.

Is there a reason for sticking to 4 boxes?  I would think something with a wider coverage located in the middle and one exploded off to each side (3 total) might be a better approach.

Now the low freq capability is generally going to be limited in that box size-so that is another consideration.  Actual usage (music style/output) would determine those needs and what can and can't be done.

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