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[Dick Rees]

Jack Wooten wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 14:33

It was just a thought.... I know they are cheaply produced and just giving them a shot. I WOULD NEVER USE them on a foh app. just monitors

Jack....

When it gets down to defending less expensive products.......

[Evan Kirkendall]

Jack Wooten wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 15:33

It was just a thought.... I know they are cheaply produced and just giving them a shot. I WOULD NEVER USE them on a foh app. just monitors

Because musicians totally don't need a quality system! Musicians that can hear themselves is totally overrated. I know I always buy cheap stuff for monitor world and spend the big bucks on FOH gear, because I don't have to listen to it!



Did you catch the sarcasm?




Evan

[Greg Cameron]

A new low for Behringer. I guess the bad economy is making them more disparate than usual...

Greg

[Dick Rees]

Greg Cameron wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 15:23

A new low for Behringer. I guess the bad economy is making them more disparate than usual... Greg

I'll say!!!

disparate

1 : containing or made up of fundamentally different and often incongruous elements

Source:  Merriam Webster On line

[Harry Sookraj]

hey jack...i have a ep2500 and also a rmx2450...i wouldn't say they are the same...dont use it to run any bass speakers, that's for sure, i tried one time and it sucked, especially if your are going to run the load under 4ohms...i use it to run my mid boxes...and they do "almost" as good a job as the the rmx...but it does clip earlier and get hot sooner...but a box fan keeps me going...to me it was worth the price...please post how the ep4000 works for you and what you used it for...hey, if it works for what you want it do...it was worth every dollar

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

Jack Wooten wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 10:18

This offers alot more power than the ep-2500

Actually, the power ratings seem to be the same. As others have mentioned, they added "peak" power ratings and a new model number.

I'm just pleased to see that they seem to have written and illustrated the owner's manual largely themselves … unlike when the EuroPower amps first came out.

[Bob Leonard]

Bob Lee (QSC) wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 17:26

Jack Wooten wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 10:18 This offers alot more power than the ep-2500 Actually, the power ratings seem to be the same. As others have mentioned, they added "peak" power ratings and a new model number. I'm just pleased to see that they seem to have written and illustrated the owner's manual largely themselves … unlike when the EuroPower amps first came out.

Bob,
I couldn't stand it anymore and had to look. I see where they have "adjusted" the peak output power rating to fall directly in line with the 4050HD. I also see where they have an amp that uses the same technology, has the same ratings, and is 34lbs lighter.

Now if my wife lost 34LBS I would be thrilled, however, if someone tells me they have a duck just like my duck it better weigh the same as my duck.

Sounds like the 2450 clone grew a few more output devices, is using the same toroids and about .5 lbs more heat sink.

Peak output my ass. I hope they come with fire extinguishers.

[Dick Rees]

Bob Leonard wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 17:07

Bob Lee (QSC) wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 17:26 Jack Wooten wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 10:18 This offers alot more power than the ep-2500 Actually, the power ratings seem to be the same. As others have mentioned, they added "peak" power ratings and a new model number. I'm just pleased to see that they seem to have written and illustrated the owner's manual largely themselves … unlike when the EuroPower amps first came out. Bob, I couldn't stand it anymore and had to look. I see where they have "adjusted" the peak output power rating to fall directly in line with the 4050HD. I also see where they have an amp that uses the same technology, has the same ratings, and is 34lbs lighter. Now if my wife lost 34LBS I would be thrilled, however, if someone tells me they have a duck just like my duck it better weigh the same as my duck. Sounds like the 2450 clone grew a few more output devices, is using the same toroids and about .5 lbs more heat sink. Peak output my ass. I hope they come with fire extinguishers.

[Greg Cameron]

It's debatable then whether or not I should correct the spelling I suppose

Greg

[Pete Sams]

OK, I looked at the manual:
EP4000:
RMS @ 1% thd Sine wave both channels driven 4ohm....950w
RMS @ 1% ths sine wave Bridged mode 4ohm.....2400w

I'd say they figured out how to get a little more power out of a 2500 in 8 and 4 ohms. That's about it really, whoopie...

Waste of 387