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Chris Van Duker

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Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« on: February 18, 2009, 03:56:25 pm »

I got my copy of PSN last night, and they mentioned an MSRP of $799 for the new, 6000 watt Peavey class-D power amp. Not trusting that, I looked around a bit for independent confirmation, and found this: http://namm2009.blogspot.com/.

They're showing these street prices for the series:

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   * IPR1600 - Street Price: $299.99
   * IPR3000 - Street Price: $399.99
   * IPR4599 - Street Price: $499.99
   * IPR6000 - Street Price: $599.99

In addition, the IPR DSP series features built-in DSP processing

   * IPR DSP 1600 - Street Price: $449.99
   * IPR DSP 3000 - Street Price: $599.99
   * IPR DSP 4500 - Street Price: $649.99
   * IPR DSP 6000 - Street Price: $799.99



Am I the only one who finds the idea of a 6000 watt lightweight amp for $800 (or $600) just a bit insane? And if this is real, do the other amp manufacturers have a strategy to deal with that kind of pricing structure? Interesting times...

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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 04:16:37 pm »

I am eager to see them and give them a spin.  The lightest model is only 6.2 lbs supposedly, which would be fantastic, and if that pricing is indeed correct then I expect these to sell well.  Maybe these will give the XTi amps some serious competition for cost-conscious applications.

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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 04:25:25 pm »

  No 6000 watt amp from Peavey, here's the specs:

 * IPR 1600 530W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
   * IPR 3000 1000W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
   * IPR 4400 1500W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
   * IPR 6000 2000W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms

   * IPR DSP 1600 530W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
   * IPR DSP 3000 1000W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
   * IPR DSP 4400 1500W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
   * IPR DSP 6000 2000W RMS x 2 at 4 ohms

If they are rated like the last Peavey amp I bought, divide by two...

Art Welter
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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 05:40:35 pm »

Art Welter wrote on Wed, 18 February 2009 13:25

 

If they are rated like the last Peavey amp I bought, divide by two...

Art Welter


What was the last one you bought.  I've measured lots of them ... and they all check out measured into pure resistive loads..

Two things ...

You need a stiff power supply.  I used a 60A service and a Variac.  You must make the measurement with 120vac supplied at max output.  For really big amps that means you need to supply about 140v with no load.

"continuous" now means about 4-8 seconds before the breaker kicks into protection.
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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 05:48:23 pm »

I found this... who really runs at 2 ohms, anyway?

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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 05:48:53 pm »

Here are some more realistic specs from MixOnline. It seems the IPR 6000 will be 2000 watts stereo into a 4 ohm load. But for how long????

http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2009/01/26/peavey-deb uts-revolutionary-new-power-amp-technology-in-ultra-lightwei ght-efficient-ipr%E2%84%A2-series/
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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 06:20:10 pm »

I don't see it on their website. I'd love to read their cut sheet.

At that cost, it must be made in China?

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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 06:44:07 pm »

As of today, this is all I see on the website:
http://www.peavey.com/news/article.cfm/action/view/id/347/20 091501.cfm

Looking forward to checking them out...

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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 07:47:57 pm »

Art Welter wrote on Wed, 18 February 2009 15:25

  No 6000 watt amp from Peavey, here's the specs:
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If they are rated like the last Peavey amp I bought, divide by two...

Art Welter


I shouldn't let this bother me, since I've been gone several years, but a few of my 15 years there were spent as product manager for power amps, and all were in some engineering or management capacity, so to keep this interesting (for me),  I'll repeat Don's question to see if it was one of my models.

Art, which amp model was it that you bought that put out 1/2 rated power?

Under my watch, every amp I am aware of sold by Peavey met rated power by a healthy margin. And I had engineering oversight into the fixed install amps too. We didn't dare cut it close because of all the snarky "professionals" sniping at us. FWIW the guitar amps were rated for power at anywhere from 3 to 5% distortion, but that is not unusual for such  market segments.

I do recall several dealers and/or customers with soft bench power that lacked a major clue about what they were talking about. For a while we put Marty out on the road with a scope and load box to try to help educate the sundry unwashed but with limited success.

I can't speak for before 1985 or any of the new amps but I truly doubt Peavey was ever the liar in the power amp game.. I have heard second hand about several false rumors spread by reps from "premium" amp companies, and some still play a little fast and loose, promoting slew rate and other nonsense differentiations.

With power amps it's all about how loud for how long.

YMMV

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Re: Peavey IPR pricing: can this possibly be right?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 08:01:19 pm »

Hmmmm....odd that my QSCs and several Crown and Crest models base their model numbers on the combined 2ohm output of an amp (or the 4 ohm bridged output) but evidently Peavey isn't allowed that method.  The Peavey is every bit the 6000 watt amp that my RMX5050 is a 5000 watter.  Obviously, alot of folks are going to wait and see - the proof is in the pudding afterall - but berating the product 6 months before its release is hardly an open minded approach.  
As far as the 4-8 second window for max continuous output before the breaker pops, it seems we had that discussion some months back about LabGruppen.

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