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Bennett Prescott

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2009, 04:16:06 PM »

I recognize that driver! I think I remember you telling me what caused that particular failure... Shocked
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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2009, 04:16:18 PM »

This is an " intersting" comp driver failure. Not over excurted but a glue failure. Happened to a batch of 1.4" we had a few years back. The switch to RoHS compliant glue was the answer given by the manufacturer?

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5933/22905107no4.jpg

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2009, 04:28:29 PM »

Bennett Prescott wrote on Sun, 08 February 2009 15:15

 Does anyone have any interesting compression driver failures?


Glad you asked!

index.php/fa/20826/0/

The top two illustrate that even titanium diaphragms will shatter if you slam them hard enough against the phase plug.  The third looks OK, but it's open.  The fourth wasn't slammed quite as hard as the first two, but the phase plug has left its impression.  Sorry about the dust specks.  These have been sitting around for a while in the shop.

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2009, 04:31:18 PM »

Yes! Thanks, Geoff. I was hoping someone had a shattered compression driver... I'm definitely going to be talking about how it is rare, but possible to overexcurse a HF dome. Do you have a separate, maybe even higher res version of the first one?
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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2009, 04:33:34 PM »

Hi,

Well not really over excursion failures, but over powered and over...related  Smile

This is from a Virox (Chinese) 18" short horn sub.
Probably simply over powered or maybe a case of under rated tensile wires…
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/boniton/Virox18SW02.jpg

Here is a 12" out of a no-name wedge. Burned VC that fired through the spider.
This must have been a spectacular show at those few seconds...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/boniton/Noname12-2.jpg

This is a 8" woofer. Out of an old HiFi system,
where both cabs (left & right) had the exact same 'failure' of the tensile wire…
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/boniton/hifi8-19.jpg

Most strange…

A further look inside the cab revealed a possible explanation  Confused
As can be seen in the next picture, there was an audience sitting really close...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/boniton/hifi8-22.jpg
They probably didn't like the music (type, volume or both…) so they found a way to cut it out…

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2009, 04:44:12 PM »

The original is 3072 pixels wide.  How high res would you like?

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2009, 04:50:48 PM »

Phil  Boutle wrote on Sun, 08 February 2009 16:16

This is an " intersting" comp driver failure. Not over excurted but a glue failure. Happened to a batch of 1.4" we had a few years back. The switch to RoHS compliant glue was the answer given by the manufacturer?




I have heard all sorts of stories about RoHS products being a problem-especially solder.

I wonder why the US Military refuses to use RoHS?  Maybe they want their gear to actually work- reliably?   OR so I have heard anyway-but cannot confirm that statement.
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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2009, 04:52:21 PM »

Not sure how this happened but it's an Alpha B1 driver. Only suggestions are a wrongly set processor or a speakon channel change cable leading to the S2 signal being sent to the B1.

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2009, 05:07:26 PM »

Bennett,

You might check on the word “overexcurse” before the article...

Spelling and word use aside, most current loudspeakers use cone mid drivers, but using 1” to 2” exit horn drivers with aluminum diaphragms to 500 HZ, with second order crossovers used to be typical for Altec, EV, JBL, and Peavey.
Shattered diaphragms, and more often, surrounds were probably more common than burnt voice coils then.
Still lots of those old systems still in use.

Titanium made shattered diaphragms more rare, even with low crossover points, though some types seem more shatter prone than others.
Over excursion still can easily happen with a cold solder joint on an inductor in a passive crossover, which can drop the crossover frequency more than an octave and go from second or third order to first order.

I hate it when that happens.

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Re: Loudspeaker Failure Photos
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2009, 05:32:59 PM »

Could you email me the original, Geoff? I'd love the full resolution.
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