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Micky Basiliere

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Your definition of a Sidefill?
« on: October 06, 2008, 08:24:38 PM »

Hi Guy's! Just wondering what you guy's consider an acceptable(rider friendly) "sidefill speaker" monitor rig??? What configuration of cabinets would you use? What size drivers ETC. Biamp or passive? ETC.... Smile
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008, 08:37:50 PM »

That would really depend on the performers needs.

I would say generally it ranges from a full range club PA to a medium size concert PA.

My standard sidefill (per side) was biamped with a 2x15" bass and a 2x12" + horn (passive).  They were custom built to get the horn about 7' off the ground.  That was it could be used as a small system also.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 08:45:14 PM »

Something like an 850/SB850.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 08:48:32 PM »

I don't often need sidefills for my events but I see a lot of the KF300s being used sometimes with subs but often without.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 09:36:31 PM »

I remember seeing a rider for a Christian rap group when I was first starting out, and my entire rig would have barely satisfied their sidefill requirement. I've heard of drummers requiring 10,000 watts on the drumfill.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 09:39:58 PM »

As a seemingly "that's my station in life" monitor engineer (cause that's where I usually end up) I live by my side fills.

I need side fills which are basically capable of laying a FOH mix on stage.  3-way system:  18's, 12's and 1.5" right up to snuff and I'm a happy camper.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 09:41:26 PM »

I used TA15s for years until recently when I sold them. I've been to a number of larger shows where I've seen JBL SRX 725s on subs, or just the 725 and other speakers of that quality. Depends on the size of the stage and the performers need.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 09:56:32 PM »

Most riders I have to fill ask for a dual 12 mid/hig box over a dual 18 box. If you are looking to fill a rider you must have them tri amped. Make sure whatever you end up with will put the horn just over the head of the person closest. The center of the stage can't be shaded by someone standing in front of the horn.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 09:59:09 PM »

Bob Leonard wrote on Mon, 06 October 2008 21:41

I used TA15s for years until recently when I sold them. I've been to a number of larger shows where I've seen JBL SRX 725s on subs, or just the 725 and other speakers of that quality. Depends on the size of the stage and the performers need.


I typically use my SR4726's for a full range passive mix but, i wonder if adding some subs underneath Confused  might do more damage in my FOH vocal mix,than it's worth? This is kind of what my question is all about.
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Re: Your definition of a Sidefill?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 10:04:35 PM »

[quote title=Micky Basiliere wrote on Mon, 06 October 2008 20:59

I typically use my SR4726's for a full range passive mix but, i wonder if adding some subs underneath Confused  might do more damage in my FOH vocal mix,than it's worth? This is kind of what my question is all about.[/quote]


What size stage and what size room are you usually working in? If you tweak the side fills right you should not have much of an issue with them in the vox mix at FOH. Don't let the subs become sloppy on stage, just use them for some low end punch in the kick drum and bass gt.
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