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Rain Jaudon

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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 12:17:17 PM »

I'm not  a dealer for them or a sales rep.  But let me say these things are incredible!  Prices I'm tossing out are MSRP.  
And best I can tell, Neo-Neon/Irradiant were OEM manufacturers for several products.  The companies either discontinued the product or found a cheaper place to make it.  So Neo/Irr. just continued making it for themselves.  

The city they've built in China is larger than Behringer City, fyi.  It was also nice to see  some key players leave their companies to go work for Irradiant.  Frank Luppino has always been a "service comes first" type of manufacturer's rep.  Doug Suiter is another.  And Jim Hardaway who has produced some amazing laser products.


I played with the LEDPRO64ST.
Its essentially a short can,  Par 64.  36 1 watt LEDs.
Built as solid as any other LED Par (elation, AMdj) that I've had my hands on.  
PRO version, so no dip switches to deal with.
Has a FAN inside it but you'd never know unless you picked up the PAR and felt a bit of vibration.. its a silent fan.
Another think I liked about it:  No sign of the triple shadow you get from most LED par cans.  Just 1 shadow with this par.  Believe there is a unique lens on the front of the par that corrects this.  He did say I could easily remove that for a different lens that would then make it more of a wash than a par.

Think MSRP is around $400 and this thing is as bright as at least a 500 watt par.  The Irradiant rep said 1000 watt par.

Believe the next was a LED Moonflower 1 - special effect light.
As big as a basketball.  Fairly long throw.  Neat lighting effects.
I set it to react to the beat of the audio.  Another solidly built can.  No moving parts so I'd assume if anything wore out, it would be the bracket bolts. HAHA!  Effects ranged from colored circles to fireworks style simulated movements.  Think this one would work well on dance floors or as a party light for youth groups.  And its like $80!

I'm considering getting a handful of their small LED gobo spot lights.  At $50 each its hard to beat it!  Didn't get to put my hands on one, but says it has a 5watt COB LED.  Then I'll get a few gobo packs and go to town!

The controller was a Club-12 DMX controller.  Essentially a DMX-Operator style.  MSRP $149.  Sliders felt much more solid and smoother than the DMX-OP controller.  

Another cool fixture was the Sun Wash RGB.  A smallish panel wash LED light.  It is hinged so it can be aimed, but its not a moving head.  24 1-watt reds, 18 3-watt greens, and 7 3-watt blues.
This puppy is BRIGHT!  At $1399, I will be able to put these in several of my installs as wall washes and stage washes.
(It comes in a Amber/White LED version too:  49 3-watt white, 7 3-watt amber)
Solid metal housing.  Don't recall it being a loud fixture.

Now we've all worked with the Elation DLED36 (MH and non MH).
Great light for my installs.
I played with the LED MOVE RGB.  Essentially the same light!
Identical in many many ways.  36 1-watt LEDs.  does everything the DLED36 does.  But has their Irradiant lens on it.  MSRP is $649!!!!  (thats half of Elation's MAP)  Same cam locks for mounting - very solid.

Another one that impressed me was the LED Bank8 Pro. 96 1-watt LEDs.  Brackets on each end allow for aiming it straight up (or down) a wall or curtain as well as a slight angle up to be used as a side wash or knee light.  MSRP around $989.
This one had a bit more fan noise than I prefer.  (if used on a stage for acoustic musicians or House of Worship installs)
He did state that I could disconnect the outgoing fan without any overheating issues.  

A fogger he showed me in the catalog but didn't have on hand, the Fog Pod, is  vertical fogger.  I see a great use for these in Little Theater productions and stage set ups where you need fog to rise or a burst of smoke from behind props or amp stacks on stage.  And for $65 MSRP, get several of them.  Has a 50w halogen light in them as well.. neat effect light.

Another piece I want to get my hands on is their wireless DMX box.  512 channels and a MSRP of $179 per side - so for around $360 you have wireless DMX. From an install standpoint, this saves me multiple scaffolding climbs, wire runs, and possible lift rentals.. for less money than I charge per day for labor alone.   Reviews on other wireless DMX units say that its a Line of Sight requirement for solid performance.. So I'm waiting to get my hands on this one from Irradiant.


Boy - Im beginning to sound like I SHOULD work for the company - HAHA!

The partial catalog I picked up at the NAMM show is about 3 inches thick and doesn't contain every product they offer.  LED screens, flooring, architectural and residential fixtures, LED panels that replace florescent lights in drop ceilings, LED tape style pieces, more lasers than you've ever seen, a large line of moving heads, genis, pars, blinders, strobes, intelligent lighting, special effects lighting, foggers n hazers, 4000w DMX search lights, controllers, splitters, dimmers, TRUSS, flight cases, MI and Pro audio (amazing how some of it looks JUST LIKE a JBL EON and the Mackie SRM series), DJ mixers/CD players, mics (they have a model that matches pretty much every handheld you've ever worked with), amps, and a few sub/sat speaker systems on tripods.

Keep ya posted as I get more of these in my hands.

I did order the controller and  some of the smaller LED pars for a local bar.  Should be in soon and I'll post when I've set them up.

Rain
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 12:31:30 PM »

Rain... awesome... Keep us posted on that install your doing.
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 08:12:21 PM »

It seems that there is a distributor being set up on the west coast, and theoretically in Chicago. Some of the people involved are names that are familiar to most of us that have been involved in the retail side.

I got my hands on the catalog today, and it looks like a sm
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2008, 11:48:33 AM »

I sent a direct inquiry to them about the 100 watt SSLE. Here is there reply.

Thank you for your interest
It is a single 100 watt solid state led...
We are the first to develop it and it is very close in color temperature and appearance to fixtures with
An MSD 250 lamp.   The Revo 100 is based on our Geni OBY 3 fixture. So the profiles are exactly the same and can be found in most lighting software libraries.
I hope that helps.
Where are you located. Are you a retailer, production company, personal use ?  
If you would like to provide us with more information we can be happy to direct you to the right sales channel so you can see one Best Regards

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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2008, 01:02:15 PM »

Should be interesting seeing how they get a warranty and service department up as that is really what sets one company from another is warranty and service repairs.  Also how much are they going to have in stock as I have driven by the west coast building and it is not really all that large.

However, will be great to see new products.  However reliability and service are the most important thing to me.  A great price and no service (I do not know if they do or do not have) is a hard sell for me......
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 10:17:13 AM »

I went ahead and took the plunge and purchased 6 of the Irradiant Par 56 LED cans with the .5 watt LED, these are also the short nose can.

They should be here at my house tonight.  After the weekend, I'll compare them to the Chauvet LEDrain 64.
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 11:47:31 AM »

I have three of the short nose Par56 1 watt versions.
MSRP of $320.00

Should be in - gotta call and see.
Will give a review once I have em installed.
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 08:31:40 PM »

Alright... so here are some teaser shots of my Irradiant LEDs.  These are model number SRL-6079S; these are the .5w version.  The cans are sturdy, I would almost say these are just like the American DJ Par64 just a tad smaller.

The test is with a single LED using the simple sound activated mode.  The distance from the light to the ceiling is about 14 ft on a angle (8 ft ceilings); the diameter of the circle is 3.5'-4.5'.  


Do you have any questions?  

I'll be taking the comparison pictures after the weekend.


so here are the pictures:

Red:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01208.jpg

Blue:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01203.jpg

Green:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01202.jpg

Orange:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01204.jpg

Cyan:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01205.jpg

Purple:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01206.jpg

White:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01207.jpg
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Re: Neo Neon
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 10:18:43 PM »

I have the pictures!!!!!

So here is a few of my basic thoughts.  

The Chauvet LEDrain 64 is brighter than the Irradiant .5w Par 56.  The Rain64 comes with 183 10mm LEDs (61 red, 61 green, 61 blue) and the Irradiant .5w Par56 comes with 107 .5w LEDs (50 red, 33 green 24 blue); side note the Par64 size can comes with 116 .5w LEDs, 50 red, 39 green 27 blue.

The Colors: Rain64 can had a duller color than the Irradiant can, the Irradiant LED blue is much deeper, the green is much more grassy color and the reds are about equal.

The structure:  Irradiant can is much stronger.

Programing/DIP switches:  the Chauvet has solid color, mixing and sound.
The Irradiant can had color strobing and sound, the irradiant doesn't have a solid color on setting (i haven't found it, if there is I haven't found the setting).


The Rain 64 is on the left and the Irradiant .5w Par56 is on the right.
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01222.jpg
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01221.jpg

The LED Pattern; the LEDrain 64 uses a Zig Zag set-up, the Irradiant uses the ring layout (r, g, b, r, g, b).
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01223.jpg
Just Red:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01220.jpg

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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 10:19:33 PM »

Here is some wall shots of you that use the Up Lighting technique.   The LEDrain64 is on the left and the Irradiant is on the right.  Both light had about the same amount of spread on the wall.  
Red:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01215.jpg
Blue:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01217.jpg
Green:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01216.jpg
Cyan:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01219.jpg
Orange:
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/DSC01218.jpg

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