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Evan Kirkendall

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ADR Audio: Mini review
« on: May 13, 2008, 01:06:24 pm »

I tried to do this last night, and PSW destroyed my post, so, Ill try again today...

Our last stop on tour was Bamboozle last Sunday. Jason and Bennett were off doing one of the side stages at this show, so when I had some down time I decided to go find them and check things out. I spent a good amount of time trying to locate the stage, before I finally realized they were off in their own little bubble. I walked into the bubble and realized right away that is was quite an interesting sounding room. There was a fun slap back at FOH as well as a constant rumble from all the other stages close by.

The rig in the bubble was 6 baby line array units per side, and 4 subs center blocked. At FOH was Jason's Spectra T.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/ADR5.jpg

Baby line close up:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/ADR1.jpg

4 subs center blocked, with manual delay:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/ADR3.jpg

I was told that they were promised fly points for the PA, but they fell through last minute and they ended up having to ground stack the array. They strapped the bottom to the stage, and it seemed to be a pretty stable stack...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/ADR2.jpg

But, I didnt get to stick around for long, I had to go off to work. So, I told the guys that I would be back later in the day, and I went off to work:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/ATL%20stuff/bamboozle3.jpg

Just a little bit bigger then their stage. Smile

Then, I headed over to catering to get some lunch and relax for a little while.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/ADR4.jpg

The lunch itself was pretty decent. Well... Decent for someone who's happy to get a lunch sometimes. Smile

Anyway, after lunch I headed back over to Jason's stage. As I walked in a comedy act was on stage performing. Well, he was supposed to be a comedy act, but man, it was just plain bad. I've got a video coming soon of his performance... It was horrible.

However, with that said, I did notice right away that the PA sounded pretty good. The vocals coming through the PA were very clean, and clear. They were not boomy or muddy. It was very easy to understand the poor attempts at jokes.

After this act finished, Jason let me take the wheel on the board. The next act was the usual rock 3 piece rock band with lead singer. One thing that I noticed as I started to open the rig up was that there was a lot going on in the 3-4k range. It was this weird harshness that I could not get rid of. It was probably a combination of crappy instrument tones and poor mic technique that made the situation worse. But, when I looked over at the DSP and there was already a fairly large cut in the same region. But other then that, the boxes sound pretty good. Bennett said only 4 per side were on, and they did a good job covering the space. I was tapping 106dBA @ FOH and thats about all she had. The system did not sound strained or even sound like it was into the limiters, but she didnt have much left.

Sub wise, about half way through the set, Bennett gave me the OK to open them up a bit. So, I cranked the sub aux to +10 and the master to +7. With the board just under clip, the subs were into the red. They were hitting me in the chest at FOH, and up front it was pretty intense. The subs have a very nice tone to them. They go low and hit pretty hard. They have a nice tight sound to them and are not boomy at all. They remind me of a high duality dual 18. The fact that there are 6 18's in that box is rather disappointing. They didnt seem to have anymore output then if you were to have a block of 4 SB1000's in the front. That was the only thing I didnt really like about them.

So, to sum it up, the ADR boxes are pretty decent. Aside from a few minor things, the boxes all sound pretty good and get decently loud. The only thing that always turns me away from these speakers is the price point. I just dont see them really making an impact on the market any time soon with the prices so high. Who knows, maybe one day they will be giving Meyer a run for their money. But, as of now, I just dont see it.

However, I still love that Spectra T. Smile



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Re: ADR Audio: Mini review
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 06:02:33 pm »

You really, really need to work on ATL's rider.

That 3-4k range you heard might have been your body screaming in protest.

That's what we got in 1973. Entirely unacceptable catering in 2008:

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Re: ADR Audio: Mini review
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 06:30:53 pm »

Tony "T" Tissot wrote on Sun, 01 June 2008 18:02

You really, really need to work on ATL's rider.

That 3-4k range you heard might have been your body screaming in protest.

That's what we got in 1973. Entirely unacceptable catering in 2008:

index.php/fa/16098/0/



That was on site catering. We didnt get a rider at Bamboozle. Sad It was either eat that, or dont eat anything...

ATL's rider is actually quite nice Smile



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Re: ADR Audio: Mini review
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 06:55:12 pm »

When I road tested the ADR cabs I thought the silver screws were just a beta-phase thing. I think they've been out long enough now that they could source some black oxide finished hardware.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 12:51:18 am »

Mike Pyle wrote on Sun, 01 June 2008 23:55

When I road tested the ADR cabs I thought the silver screws were just a beta-phase thing. I think they've been out long enough now that they could source some black oxide finished hardware.


We are still experimenting with cataphoresis on inox screws (and other metal parts, while I'm disclosing)... until then, let silver, rust free screws be our signature.

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Re: ADR Audio: Mini review
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 08:03:06 am »

It looks more robust with white screws Smile

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Re: ADR Audio: Mini review
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 09:05:48 am »

Mike Pyle wrote on Sun, 01 June 2008 18:55

When I road tested the ADR cabs I thought the silver screws were just a beta-phase thing. I think they've been out long enough now that they could source some black oxide finished hardware.
I think that's quite a compliment that anyone associated with the product should be proud of.

If screw color is the only thing you have a problem with it means that the rest of the product is doing pretty well. Very Happy

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Re: ADR Audio: Mini review
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 06:37:41 pm »

Phil LaDue wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 06:05


If screw color is the only thing you have a problem with it means that the rest of the product is doing pretty well. Very Happy




The rest of the product is quite nice, and I was pretty sure the screws were stainless steel. Unfortunately, being left "in the white" gives the cabinets a home brew appearance. That may eventually be an effective trade signature among the audio cognoscenti, but will the executive delivering a presentation standing next to one recognize that, or simply think they could have at least found some screws that matched the finish? If I owned a set of the ADRs, I'd be busy with a paint brush before they went on the job.
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 04:42:11 am »

I very much agree with you, Mike.

However, as I already mentioned, I really want to make this right : based on 'so far' experience, only electrophoresis gives results, that I can live with, which are long term durability and aesthetic appeal.

I think we are pretty close now to start using hi-tech BLACK screws...

Huh, it's a process, alright, to get to the real product.

Thanks, Mike, all
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