ProSoundWeb Community

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...  (Read 8479 times)

Kevin Pippen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 47
Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« on: January 17, 2008, 10:04:16 am »

I would like opinions from experienced cabinet builders that have used both of the styles shown below and which style of fastener they prefer and why... I have read that "style B" is the better choice for MDF, HDF, etc.,...but I'm particularly interested in their use for securing drivers and access panels to Birch ply... In addition, I would appreciate in any tips-n-tricks for installing either style... Also, if anyone has a better solution to these please post your suggestions and a picture if possible...


STYLE A (STANDARD T-NUT)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/pippenk/TNUT1.jpg

STYLE B (HURRICANE, PROPEL, OR PROPELLER NUT)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/pippenk/TNUT2.jpg


Thank you in advance for your comments and suggestions!...

Kev



Logged
turn on, tune in, drop out

http://www.teamaai.net/kevin/nipper.jpg
Hey Nipper,...we gotta have more cowbell!!!

John Halliburton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1785
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 11:56:56 am »

"It Depends".

1.  Both will strip out.
2.  The propel nut in MDF or harder sheet goods is a bit easier to install.
3.  The Tee-nut is faster, and comes in more varieties.
4.  If you have no room to pound a Tee-nut in with a hammer or hammer-like device, you can draw them in with a mating screw.  I find this easier with the propel nuts however.
5.  If pounding a Tee-nut, do so on the bench to the piece in question before installing, they'll tend to go in better and straighter.
6. If you are drawing either in with a cordless drill-driver bit, use a standard flat washer and an oversized fender washer on the installation bolt/screw, as it will deform the plywood/MDF less when you tighten it down.  It's a cosmetic issue mainly.
7.  Get them with the longest barrel that will fit in the thickness of material used-they stay in better.
8.  Spritz compressed air and check for debris in them before final assembly, it will cut down on mangled threads.
9.  "Hopper Feed" style Tee-nuts can give you more clearance for mounting around speaker cutouts-the prongs are paired and opposed vs. evenly spaced around the flange.

Damn, almost made a "Top Ten" list out of this.   Razz

Best regards,

John
Logged

Al Limberg

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1482
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 12:08:59 pm »

10. A drop of West System epoxy carefully applied to the surface that mates with the panel will prevent 'fallout' after assembly.
Use caution not to let any epoxy enter the threads!

?;o)
Al
Logged
If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get one million miles to the gallon, and explode once a year killing everyone inside - Robert X. Cringely

Kevin Pippen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 47
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 12:19:50 pm »

John Halliburton wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 10:56

9.  "Hopper Feed" style Tee-nuts can give you more clearance for mounting around speaker cutouts-the prongs are paired and opposed vs. evenly spaced around the flange.

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice!... Is this the style you were refering to?...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/pippenk/TNUT3.gif

I like that they are blind so if a little epoxy is added to the shaft and base it won't get inside...

Thanks!

Kev


EDIT: Hello Al,...Thank you for the advice!...Smile


Logged
turn on, tune in, drop out

http://www.teamaai.net/kevin/nipper.jpg
Hey Nipper,...we gotta have more cowbell!!!

John Halliburton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1785
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 01:25:19 pm »

That is the style to which I referred.
My feeling WRT epoxy is mixed(no pun intended).  It has benefits, but when you have to remove a stripped Tee-nut, the epoxy can make a bit of a mess tearing more of the plywood/MDF out.
The Propel nuts are less inclined to fall or pop out though.



Best regards,

John
Logged

Kevin Pippen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 47
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 09:20:05 am »

John,

In your opinion which is better for birch ply "hopper" or "propel"?...

Kev
Logged
turn on, tune in, drop out

http://www.teamaai.net/kevin/nipper.jpg
Hey Nipper,...we gotta have more cowbell!!!

John Halliburton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1785
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 09:31:15 am »

My default is the hopper style Tee-nut, the propel nut for tricky spots where you may not be able to pound in a Tee-nut, which is the real decision maker-both do what they're supposed to do.

Best regards,

John
Logged

Kevin Pippen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 47
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 09:33:37 am »

Hello John,

Thank you very much!...

Kev
Logged
turn on, tune in, drop out

http://www.teamaai.net/kevin/nipper.jpg
Hey Nipper,...we gotta have more cowbell!!!

Tim Padrick

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5008
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2008, 08:10:29 pm »

A couple of #4 tapping screws will prevent tee-nut spin and pushout.

Kevin Pippen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 47
Re: Which style of fastener do you prefer?...
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2008, 08:53:45 pm »

Hi Tim,

Thank you for posting and the excellent advice!...

Kev
Logged
turn on, tune in, drop out

http://www.teamaai.net/kevin/nipper.jpg
Hey Nipper,...we gotta have more cowbell!!!
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.038 seconds with 20 queries.