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Karl Bader

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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 03:07:25 pm »

Okay, now I'm confused, are you looking for a handheld wireless remote that you know will likely be stolen, a permanently mounted wireless remote or some simple and inexpensive way to control the volume from out in the room?

The client simple wants to be able to adjust volume up and down on the system from in the room and doesn't want to be hassled with walking to a wall panel, I know doesn't make sense to me either... Also not sure why I am being ridiculed... the question is simply what product would work for wirelessly controlling the up and down volume on a sound system. RF preferred. something to go inline before the amp, or whatever, it should be affordable as this is a weight room, not a smart classroom.

Sorry if I sound frustrated... I asked the width of the window and I'm getting the length of the door reply!

Thanks,

Karl
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 04:14:15 pm »

If you get stuck you could always do a little system integration, a quick google found this kit on eBay...
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 04:55:14 pm »

The client simple wants to be able to adjust volume up and down on the system from in the room and doesn't want to be hassled with walking to a wall panel, I know doesn't make sense to me either... Also not sure why I am being ridiculed... the question is simply what product would work for wirelessly controlling the up and down volume on a sound system. RF preferred. something to go inline before the amp, or whatever, it should be affordable as this is a weight room, not a smart classroom.

Sorry if I sound frustrated... I asked the width of the window and I'm getting the length of the door reply!
I understand your frustration but the fact that I cannot find a low cost line level audio volume control with a RF wireless remote may be one reason you are not getting simple answers.  Adding to that, although you can't always be successful at it, some probably believe that it is part of the job to help clients make smart decisions rather than to simply do what they want and want to make sure they are aware of the options available and the tradeoffs they represent. 

If you get stuck you could always do a little system integration, a quick google found this kit on eBay...
That may be the only way to do something like what is wanted without spending a lot but I see several concerns with that kit in this type of application.  It only handles unbalanced audio.  The remote is labeled A and B rather than up and down or something that would makes sense to any users.  And you are sticking a hobby electronics kit into an installed system so you would probably want to be very sure it is reliable and not going to end up eventually costing you time and/or money or even the client.
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Karl Bader

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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 06:39:34 pm »

If you get stuck you could always do a little system integration, a quick google found this kit on eBay...

That's what we were looking for! We bought one to test and see if this would work for us... Thanks for the link! We were doing a bunch of different searches with no competent results.
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 06:41:13 pm »

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The client simple wants to be able to adjust volume up and down on the system from in the room and doesn't want to be hassled with walking to a wall panel...

I'm at a loss to even understand how a wireless remote would be used in a weight room. Where would it be? Is there a trainer or other staff that would keep it in their pocket?
 
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... some probably believe that it is part of the job to help clients make smart decisions rather than to simply do what they want...

I happen to be one of them and that's probably why you think you are being ridiculed.
 
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 06:52:59 pm »

I understand your frustration but the fact that I cannot find a low cost line level audio volume control with a RF wireless remote may be one reason you are not getting simple answers.  Adding to that, although you can't always be successful at it, some probably believe that it is part of the job to help clients make smart decisions rather than to simply do what they want and want to make sure they are aware of the options available and the tradeoffs they represent. 
That may be the only way to do something like what is wanted without spending a lot but I see several concerns with that kit in this type of application.  It only handles unbalanced audio.  The remote is labeled A and B rather than up and down or something that would makes sense to any users.  And you are sticking a hobby electronics kit into an installed system so you would probably want to be very sure it is reliable and not going to end up eventually costing you time and/or money or even the client.

Brad,

I appreciate your post, I really do, but that's honestly not what we were looking for. The company I work for has been in this area for 30 years. Aot of our clients we too have had that long. In the past 13 years we haven't had to do any marketing for our business, and it has continually grown through word of mouth... I came to this company over others in the area because of its ethics and values... Just to give you an idea, we own speaker boxes that are about 20 years old and have never been repainted... Myself, I've done high end installs that I'm not even aloud to tell you about. If we can't walk away from something without feeling good about it, we won't do it.

This post didn't need this whole explanation, I thought. We were looking for a simple solution. The major reason I don't frequent the forums here is egos and politics... I'll only come on when I have a question that needs answering...

Thanks,

Karl
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2011, 07:01:09 pm »


I'm at a loss to even understand how a wireless remote would be used in a weight room. Where would it be? Is there a trainer or other staff that would keep it in their pocket?
 
I happen to be one of them and that's probably why you think you are being ridiculed.
 
-Hal
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I am too... I was asked a simple task, to find a device to control volume wirelessly. We wanted rf because we didn't want a you have to point it here solution. I didn't sell the job, or do client relations for it. Heck I didn't even do the design. I was asked to help find a solution.... We often get unique requests where we need to do out of norm things. I just put in vca control for a cd player in a rack. You might say we needed to put in a knob mixer before the rpm-88. Nope, a simple volume pot on a rack panel to a vca control before the input.. We have a strong belief in creating less control for a client who doesn't need it...
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2011, 08:13:42 pm »


This post didn't need this whole explanation, I thought. We were looking for a simple solution. The major reason I don't frequent the forums here is egos and politics... I'll only come on when I have a question that needs answering...

Thanks,

Karl
One thing you have to remember is that lots of people come here and ask questions and have no idea what they are asking for-or what the repercussions of what they are asking might be.

THAT is why people are second guessing what the intentions might be.  If it doesn't make sense, then people wonder why.
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 07:53:08 am »

This post didn't need this whole explanation, I thought. We were looking for a simple solution. The major reason I don't frequent the forums here is egos and politics... I'll only come on when I have a question that needs answering...

And I can promise you that we will be just as cautious and skeptical as you find us to be now.

Make sure you buy a dozen or so extra remote controls. You're going to need them.
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Re: Wireless Volume Control
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 04:13:36 pm »

May I suggest the Bose X-10 as it comes with a remote.

You could actually drive two of them with a splitter.

In a small weight room, it would be "loud".

And as Tom stated, you can buy extra remotes.

Regards,  John
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