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 91 
 on: Yesterday at 08:43:40 am 
Started by Dave Batistig - Last post by Dave Batistig
I make no judgment about your particular situation, however there is a point where after a certain amount of bad publicity, the onus shifts to the customer/victim.

The legality issues of home-made/non-listed-shop-made distros as well as the business practices of ampshop.com have been discussed thoroughly enough and often enough on PSW that by now regular posters should know better.

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice...can't get fooled again.

I am in the "cant get fooled again" column. There will be no second chance for Amp Shop with me. As far as "user built" distros, I am a degreed Electrical Engineer and I know power, but I still won't do it. I have Motion Labs getting me a quote together now.

 92 
 on: Yesterday at 08:24:37 am 
Started by Dave Batistig - Last post by TJ (Tom) Cornish
I think "deserved what happened to them" is a pretty ridiculous statement and victim blaming.
I make no judgment about your particular situation, however there is a point where after a certain amount of bad publicity, the onus shifts to the customer/victim.

The legality issues of home-made/non-listed-shop-made distros as well as the business practices of ampshop.com have been discussed thoroughly enough and often enough on PSW that by now regular posters should know better.

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice...can't get fooled again.

 93 
 on: Yesterday at 08:18:19 am 
Started by Dave Batistig - Last post by TJ (Tom) Cornish
Shoddy QC.  Not every fault on every component but all needed to be checked after we found the initial issues.

Our first order was fine but subsequent orders were met with diminishing quality, delayed deliveries, etc until we went with another vendor, "Fightingtheforcesofdarkness.com"

As for building... buying an Ampshop or DimmerRack distro means no UL sticker on the assembly so DIY is a matter of metal work and conformity to Code and best practices.  We've built a few in our shop and decided the potential liability wasn't worth the money saved.
As of NEC 2017, homebrew/non-listed shop work doesn't meet code even if it otherwise meets code.

You might get away with it for a while, but that risk coupled with the other risks of whether you'll even get the distro you paid for from said "craftsman" and the risk of whether it will even work or be wired correctly seems to be a false economy.

 94 
 on: Yesterday at 07:58:55 am 
Started by Hayden J. Nebus - Last post by Hayden J. Nebus
It's only toxic if you eat it.  It's not absorbed though the skin and it takes 800 something degrees to vaporize such that it could be inhaled.  If you get it into your system it's an embryotoxin and affects brain development.  Just ask some Romans.  ;)

But, out of an abundance of caution...


Wait, so you're not supposed to eat it?

 95 
 on: Yesterday at 07:49:09 am 
Started by Tom Harrison - Last post by Roland Clarke
Now that the Y series came into the picture. pair of Y10p/Ysubs/D20 would be about 25K, thats 10K more than the similar LAcoustics point source set up. How would you justify the big gap in price? Do they sound that much better or this is depends on the market and cross rentals, etc?

Well budget wasnít mentioned and I think you could get into the y series for a bit less than you mentioned above, for example going with B6 subs.  My personal choice is d&b over líacoustic generally, but others will have other choices.  KV2 offer some excellent systems the ex12ís which are great for the money. 

I think with the continued recommendations for the fulcrums I would try and get a listen to them.

All the above depends a lot on what you need the system for, whether you are planning to rent to customers that are specifying riders, size of events vs spl required, I feel these are only questions you can answer for yourself.

 96 
 on: Yesterday at 07:33:32 am 
Started by Dave Batistig - Last post by Michael Kurczeski
No disrespect, but there is something odd about your friend's story about a university paying $8000 up front for a distro. I was involved in college/university academia for over 35 years and responsible for placing hundreds of purchase orders. To get someone to sign off for payment in advance of receiving the merchandise is nearly impossible. If someone at the university did that, they deserve what happened.

Jim is the guy who wanted payment up front and I vouched for him. This was the Wesleyan University in indiana. I think "deserved what happened to them" is a pretty ridiculous statement and victim blaming. They asked me where to get a distro like the one I had, and I told them who and where I got it from.

 97 
 on: Yesterday at 06:09:37 am 
Started by John Schalk - Last post by Lyle Williams
Can you get outlets that accept 10ga wire?

(Asks the guy on the other side of the planet)

If yes, why not use them?  If no... what does that tell you?

 98 
 on: Yesterday at 02:22:14 am 
Started by Mike Santarelli - Last post by Tim Hite
Eddie Limon at Above the Crowd is currently selling off a dozen lightly used 8006's

http://atcprod.com

Get the 9006 if you buy new and can afford them.

Get the 8006 if you can't, or if you get a great deal on demo/second hand.

 99 
 on: Yesterday at 02:01:52 am 
Started by John Schalk - Last post by Jonathan Johnson
So, I've wondered the same thing.  Here is what I found and from my experience it makes sense.  If you trim the strands, then how do you know the strands that were cut are carrying their fair share of current?  After all, the reason for using 10 gauge is to reduce voltage drop.  Yes the strands are in contact-loose contact. I have seen many many examples of wire with a film of corrosion all but isolating the individual strands.  If you trim at both ends, unless you trim exactly the same strands, you could even end up with wire less than 12 gauge that actually has a solid compression connection on both ends.

That's what I wanted to say, but couldn't form the words correctly.

If a crimp connector is acceptable to local codes, it seems to me that trimming a few strands, then slipping a crimp ferrule over the whole strand bundle (where not trimmed) and crimping would be better than even using a butt splice to join two different wire gauges. It would certainly provide better conductivity between strands than leaving it loose.

But, as has been pointed out many times before, unorthodox solutions are still a code violation, even if superior.

 100 
 on: Yesterday at 01:46:27 am 
Started by Tom Harrison - Last post by Tom Harrison
I echo the above comments on Nexo, a bit long in the tooth these days and there are better options at this price.  The kv2 ex12ís are a great option at reasonable prices, however, they may not be easily obtainable where you are.  DB audiotechnik Y series are great as are the V, but V is a lot more money.  Fulcrum boxes have a great reputation and though Iíve never heard them personally a lot of people I respect rate them and Iíve never heard anything but good comments suggesting that they are among the best small point source boxes out there.  Iíve heard many good Líacoutic systems, but they are not my personal favourites, I always find that they sound very good, but I donít get excited about them, make of that what you will.

Good luck!

Now that the Y series came into the picture. pair of Y10p/Ysubs/D20 would be about 25K, thats 10K more than the similar LAcoustics point source set up. How would you justify the big gap in price? Do they sound that much better or this is depends on the market and cross rentals, etc? 

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