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 on: Yesterday at 08:22:51 pm 
Started by John Schalk - Last post by Frank Czar
Hey Tim,

I'm not saying use any wire nuts, I was saying take your 10ga H N G coming in the box and snip a few strands off each one so it is essentially becomes a 12ga wire at the receptacle. In my mind this seems like a better and safer way than adding more connections and crowding the box with the Wago 221's. I realize this may not be code but am I missing something in my thinking that "theoretically" it would be better?

 22 
 on: Yesterday at 07:44:32 pm 
Started by Dave Batistig - Last post by Steve Payne
^^^ THIS ^^^ RIGHT ^^^ HERE ^^^

Also phase swapping (X isn't X on the other end...), loosely mounted circuit breakers, loose set screws on connectors, ground/neutral swaps.

Jeez.  If you have to do all that you might as well build it yourself.

 23 
 on: Yesterday at 07:40:38 pm 
Started by Justice C. Bigler - Last post by Steve Payne
Who's been here long enough to remember the rants in the old LAB about the Roots basically destroying every rig they touched? Their soundman would push the system until the PA would literally destroy itself. I think they even had big body guards by the console to keep anyone from doing anything about it, IIRC.

When I first saw them on the TSSJF I couldn't believe this was the infamous "leave nothing but blown up gear behind" band. They seemed so decent on the show...

Wish the archives weren't broken (been that way for many months) so I could post a link to those threads. It was pretty horrifying what they were doing back then.

I started that thread about 15/20?? years ago.  They took out about half the components in a very adequately size ground stacked Turbosound Floodlight rig playing a smallish college basketball gym.  I have no idea what the FOH guys name was but he was absolutely abusive in the way he ran the rig.  Massive clipping on the front end of pretty much every input channel.  I am pretty sure it was his way of saying that the rig wasn't big enough or good enough for him.  Did  the Roots again about 8/10 years ago with a flown Turbo Aspect rig - outside about 5000 peeps.  I have no idea if it was the same FOH dude or not, but everything was fine.  I can imagine the group being demanding today, given their profile, but I can't imagine that they would be anything but professional..

 24 
 on: Yesterday at 07:16:01 pm 
Started by Fred Dorado - Last post by Mike Caldwell
If you use the AR2412 stage box, you can do wired IEMs for much cheaper. The 12 outputs will give you 5 stereo mixes + LR. An multi-channel headphone amp and some 25' extenders and you're set. Musicians can use their own ears or you can buy some cans for those that don't. That setup is much cheaper than wireless IEMs and potentially even cheaper than wedges. You'll just need an experienced mixing engineer to do IEM mixes well.

Edit: And you can optionally let the band mix themselves via phone or tablet apps.

Yep the Allen Heath Q You app works great for that and it's available for both Apple and Android.

 25 
 on: Yesterday at 07:04:04 pm 
Started by Eric du Toit - Last post by Eric du Toit

Primary goal - less bass on stage and/or more controllable bass on stage and still maintain a good solid low end in house.
I'm not unhappy with our current setup other than I have more bass on stage than I'd prefer, but it's not terrible.  I do DI the bass and feed it back through an Aux to the bass amp so I have control over the Markbass CMD121 amp too which is only there to provide enough stage volume for the upright (and sometimes electric) bass to hear and the group to stay together.

Current sub is the Mackie SRM1550 1200w 15" - not a bad box at all.
http://mackie.com/sites/default/files/PRODUCT%20RESOURCES/SPECS/Spec_Sheets/SRM1550_SS.pdf

QSC K212c Spec sheet here : https://www.qsc.com/live-sound/products/loudspeakers/powered-loudspeakers/ks-series-new/ks212c/ . Tops are 1000w. QSC K10 (non .2), monitors are 4x EV Zx1 and the crossover point for the old K10 tops is 100Hz when connected to the K212c

Music is bluegrass / gospel.  Venues are smaller churches (120 seat - 400 seat) and sometimes outdoor gatherings.

I target an indoor SPL of 85-90dB mid way back, outdoor may be a bit higher - 90-95dB but it's bluegrass so not rock concert levels.
Sometimes I can't place the sub directly in front of the stage/platform, but most of the time I'd be able to do that which should provide the most rear rejection on-stage right?  The last outdoor venue, I could have used more low-end to the audience but I couldn't because of the stage spillover.







 26 
 on: Yesterday at 06:40:27 pm 
Started by Justice C. Bigler - Last post by Justice C. Bigler
You'll want a stadium PA for a shed show and a shed PA for an arena-size show.  Your local-ish choices are likely to be deemed inadequate.

Prepare to be shocked at the audio production quotes once the act is named.  I don't recall lighting being contentious.
I already know that no one in Oklahoma has the SD7s, SD5s, or SD10s that they want. I cna get a pair of SD12s, but I doubt those will be acceptable.


I doubt anyone in the state has the Meyer Leo, D&B J Series, V-Dosc or JBL VTX that they want with their D&B B2 subs either. I have inquiries out to see what's available.


This is opening weekend for an outdoor venue that probably stands about 4,000.


 27 
 on: Yesterday at 06:30:02 pm 
Started by Fred Dorado - Last post by Corey Scogin
If you use the AR2412 stage box, you can do wired IEMs for much cheaper. The 12 outputs will give you 5 stereo mixes + LR. An multi-channel headphone amp and some 25' extenders and you're set. Musicians can use their own ears or you can buy some cans for those that don't. That setup is much cheaper than wireless IEMs and potentially even cheaper than wedges. You'll just need an experienced mixing engineer to do IEM mixes well.

Edit: And you can optionally let the band mix themselves via phone or tablet apps.

 28 
 on: Yesterday at 06:29:50 pm 
Started by John Schalk - Last post by Tim McCulloch
Hey Guys,

I was just about to ask this same question, "why not cut off a few strands till its 12ga"
It would seem to me your doing the same the with 2 less connections equaling 2 less points of failure. If it is not to code what would make using a Wago 221 a better safer connection?

Because it's a Code violation?

The Wago 221 can accept a range of wire sizes without compromise.  In some non-USA jurisdictions "wire nuts" are not accepted materials and the 221 was designed to meet that need.

 29 
 on: Yesterday at 06:29:03 pm 
Started by Justice C. Bigler - Last post by Tim McCulloch

[beats head against the wall]

You'll want a stadium PA for a shed show and a shed PA for an arena-size show.  Your local-ish choices are likely to be deemed inadequate.

Prepare to be shocked at the audio production quotes once the act is named.  I don't recall lighting being contentious.

 30 
 on: Yesterday at 06:24:58 pm 
Started by John Schalk - Last post by Frank Czar
Hey Guys,

I was just about to ask this same question, "why not cut off a few strands till its 12ga"
It would seem to me your doing the same the with 2 less connections equaling 2 less points of failure. If it is not to code what would make using a Wago 221 a better safer connection?

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