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Sound Reinforcement - Forums for Live Sound Professionals - Your Displayed Name Must Be Your Real Full Name To Post In The Live Sound Forums => LAB: The Classic Live Audio Board => Topic started by: Branimir Bozak on September 11, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
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Look what showed up today on my fb wall:
(https://s25.postimg.org/4a6ae7wrz/e6b24df417ad7ceb7a489b8a35382a8c_L.jpg)
http://portalnaglosnieniowy.eu/sprzet/631/soundcraft-vi1000-nowy-kompaktowy-mikser-cyfrowy
My limited Polish+google translate says:
16 XLR on board mic inputs
16 XLR on board line outputs
4 AES in, 4 AES out
Comes stock with DANTE in/out and optical MADI.
8 instances of BSS DPR901II dynamic eq
4 Lexicon effects
96 channel of inputs
24 stereo/mono AUX/GRP/MTX
8 VCA's
Although the article says the console work with maximum of 200 inputs and 200 outputs?
2 slots from D21m cards
Automixer and also control for AKG, Sennheiser and Shure wireless microphones.
Left side has 5 layers of inputs and 5 layers of USER layers
Right side has also 5 layers, it can be either output section or input, so basically, you can have 16 channels of inputs on the desk, or 8 inputs - 8 vca's, or similar.
The Vi1 is 10k Euros on Thomann.de, logic tells that the Vi1000 will cost less (less faders/inputs on board).
The Vi1000 is compatible with all Soundcraft stageboxes, the Compact, Vi, Mini's.
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I'll take 2 please.
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I don't get the UI. Do things pop up when you touch something like an eq place? Looks like lots of touching things to get the encoder to do what you want.
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I don't get the UI. Do things pop up when you touch something like an eq place? Looks like lots of touching things to get the encoder to do what you want.
I was thinking the same thing. Touch screen interfaces are great, but on a physical surface, having dedicated knobs makes it far easier to control things with muscle memory. Plus, physical buttons are still visible in direct sunlight.
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I don't get the UI. Do things pop up when you touch something like an eq place? Looks like lots of touching things to get the encoder to do what you want.
We have been using the Vi interface for quite a number of years now. It is very fast and intuitive. The channels are laid out in horizontal strips on the screen with individual sections within each channel strip for input, eq, dynamics, auxes, routing, etc. You touch the area of interest on any particular channel and the entire section is immediately and clearly mapped to the 2 rows of knobs and buttons below. The only thing we found we needed to adjust to was that the channel strip control lays out vertically rather than horizontally. This feels pretty normal in short order. We have current offerings from most of the major manufacturers in our shop. The Vi remains our personal favorite surface. Different strokes for different folks. Ain’t life grand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=GrI7KcM0T0I
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Hah, seems the webpage is 404, somebody took it down :)
And yes the Vi's UI is quite nice to use, and all the parameter tweaking is done by knobs.
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We have been using the Vi interface for quite a number of years now. It is very fast and intuitive. The channels are laid out in horizontal strips on the screen with individual sections within each channel strip for input, eq, dynamics, auxes, routing, etc. You touch the area of interest on any particular channel and the entire section is immediately and clearly mapped to the 2 rows of knobs and buttons below. The only thing we found we needed to adjust to was that the channel strip control lays out vertically rather than horizontally. This feels pretty normal in short order. We have current offerings from most of the major manufacturers in our shop. The Vi remains our personal favorite surface. Different strokes for different folks. Ain’t life grand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=GrI7KcM0T0I
Now if only the screens were better in daylight.
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Now if only the screens were better in daylight.
Indeed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=GrI7KcM0T0I
Thanks for the video link, Steve. Think I could get used to that interface fairly quickly!
Dave
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Interesting. Also, if that interface is anything like it's cousin the Studer Vista, then it is a lot more intuitive than it looks. Great UI in my opinion...now if Soundcraft could put more than 4 FX engines in their high end boards. : P
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Interesting. Also, if that interface is anything like it's cousin the Studer Vista, then it is a lot more intuitive than it looks. Great UI in my opinion...now if Soundcraft could put more than 4 FX engines in their high end boards. : P
The Vi1000, 2000 and 3000 would be the "little" high end Soundcrafts with 4 FX engines. The "big" high end Soundcrafts - Vi5000 and Vi7000 - come with 8 independent stereo Lexicon effects, each providing a choice of 14 different reverbs, 8 delays or 7 pitch shifting effects. Additionally any of the Vi series can run the optional and very nicely integrated Real Time Rack UAD plug ins.
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Interesting. Also, if that interface is anything like it's cousin the Studer Vista, then it is a lot more intuitive than it looks. Great UI in my opinion...now if Soundcraft could put more than 4 FX engines in their high end boards. : P
It is exactly like the Studer vistonics interface, just with less encoders. On the original Vi6's, the stage and local racks were full of i/o cards built by Studer with the exception of the Lexicon fx card.
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The Vi1000, 2000 and 3000 would be the "little" high end Soundcrafts with 4 FX engines. The "big" high end Soundcrafts - Vi5000 and Vi7000 - come with 8 independent stereo Lexicon effects, each providing a choice of 14 different reverbs, 8 delays or 7 pitch shifting effects. Additionally any of the Vi series can run the optional and very nicely integrated Real Time Rack UAD plug ins.
Good to know, although I still think that 4 FX engines at the price points of Vi1000 - Vi3000 is pretty lame in this day an age. Most of the competition is well ahead of that in terms of DSP.
In my studio I own UAD and I think it is great, I have all of their plugs so I know them well, but the last thing I want is an additional rack to carry around that is merely a dongle or DSP enhancer. If I am carrying a rack, then I am carrying hardware. I do not need to ad more boxes to my already capacity fly in fly out rigs. I love the UI of the Soundcraft, but think that they are behind the curve in many areas.
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More specs here (in German): https://www.audiopro.de/de/20675.matching_products.html (https://www.audiopro.de/de/20675.matching_products.html)
Summary:
- 96 channels
- 24 busses + LRC
- max 212 inputs and 212 outputs
- MADI (fiber), Dante and AES/EBU, wordclock and midi integrated + 2 double cardslots for stageboxes
- 20 faders, 16 VCAs
- 351 x 844 x 803 mm, 25kg
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More specs here (in German):
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Mac
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Mac
Whoops sorry, done.
But uhm, does anyone really read that stuff? Those agreements are like arguing with my girlfriend. In the end you ignore everything and just say okay. ::) :P
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Whoops sorry, done.
But uhm, does anyone really read that stuff? Those agreements are like arguing with my girlfriend. In the end you ignore everything and just say okay. ::) :P
Jasper, you're in for a rough ride. That attitude will come back and bite. Hard. 8)
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But welcome anyway.
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More specs here (in German): https://www.audiopro.de/de/20675.matching_products.html (https://www.audiopro.de/de/20675.matching_products.html)
Thanks for posting the pic, Jasper. The link produced an error message for me. Not sure if it's due to my U.S. location or if they've pulled the info...?
Dave
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I just saw this page about the new Vi1000. Looks like it is being launched at PLASA. Here is the link:
https://www.lsionline.com/plasa-2017-soundcraft-debuts-the-vi1000-digital-mixing-console
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Thanks for posting the pic, Jasper. The link produced an error message for me. Not sure if it's due to my U.S. location or if they've pulled the info...?
Dave
I think it was just an unrelated error, it;s back now (including a RRP of 19.990 euro ex VAT)
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BTW Soundcraft has gone official on Vi1000:
http://www.soundcraft.com/en-US/news/soundcraft-by-harman-debuts-the-vi1000-digital-mixing-console
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BTW Soundcraft has gone official on Vi1000:
http://www.soundcraft.com/en-US/news/soundcraft-by-harman-debuts-the-vi1000-digital-mixing-console
And the listing page http://www.soundcraft.com/en-US/products/vi1000
Anyone know about the price?
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Anyone have or know where to get a digital copy of a User Manual/Guide for the Vi1000, I like reading them...
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Anyone have or know where to get a digital copy of a User Manual/Guide for the Vi1000, I like reading them...
The manual should be on the Soundcraft website when available. I think the projected ship date for this console is end of 4th quarter '17 which in the real world may even mean beginning of 1st quarter 18. The manual probably hasn't even been written yet. In the meantime you could read the manual for the Vi2000. Pretty much the same console with 8 more input faders and associated vistonics screen.