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 on: Today at 01:19:32 pm 
Started by Jonathan Woytek - Last post by Tim McCulloch
Jeff is one of the 'good guys' in the speaker biz.  Customer service and support are top notch and Jeff is a genuinely friendly and knowledgeable designer.  I'm not at all surprised that you had a great experience working with JTR.

I'm particularly interested in how your rig will work in theatre, where pattern control is critical and articulation is essential.  I suspect the latter will be no issue but there is a limit to pattern control based on the physical size and form factor (and hence, frequency).  Looking forward to your impressions as you do more shows with your new rig.

ps:  don't sell off your Altecs cheap...

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 on: Today at 01:07:10 pm 
Started by Chris Edwards - Last post by Steve Crump
Captivator 212pro has been measured by Data-Bass:
http://data-bass.com/data?page=system&id=142

The CEA2010 measurements are 2 meter, rms so add +9db for 1 meter, peak.
The longterm measurements are 2 meter so add +6db.
The Captivator 212pro had a 6-8db advantage over the BC 21SW152 in the musical range (above 45hz).


I want to say the is not a review. I haven't been able to use the 212s as much as I would like to have at this point because of an ongoing house gig and the fact that I am just a weekend warrior. But, I will say I am really blown away with the performance and musicality (may or may not be the best word) of these little beast. But my second favorite part has been the form factor. I can easily stack four in one spot on my 12' "V" nose trailer leaving room for everything for sound, including 3 light stand/bars and still have a clear floor to walk into the trailer. At only 16" tall it gives me a lot of flexibility with setup. I can place them in the center front of the band in all kinds of scenarios. And the price is insanely inexpensive for the build quality. Just can't say enough good things. 

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 on: Today at 01:03:07 pm 
Started by Richard Penrose - Last post by Tim McCulloch
Perhaps things are different in the UK, but I've never been in a position to supply a modeling pedal or head unless requested in the gig advance, and that's usually because the performers are traveling by commercial aircraft and need to hold down the size/weight of their baggage.  Since this means the act will also need a drum kit, keyboards and other back line gear we get quotes from back line providers and tell the promoter or venue to take their pick of vendors and we're out of the provisioning game.

As a player I think I'd be taken aback by a local sound guy that said "here, you must use this."  I suspect I'd say "up yours" and proceed to be a very difficult musician to work with.  It's NOT your job to judge my art - whatever that may consist of - and any prejudicial attempt to control my work would be met with resistance.

If there is some kind of venue restriction it should be brought up in the booking/hiring process so the act has the option of declining the engagement or negotiating a variance.

Edit PS... if you find that you MUST use some external device, patch it console if possible.  Back in the days of analog mixers with channel strip insert points it was an easy thing to do (I've replaced kick drums with an Alesis D2 sample, for instance).  That said, I think the performer should have the initial and final say as to how he or she is presented.  If the player is unconcerned, do what you think is necessary or proper...

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 on: Today at 11:44:29 am 
Started by Sean Barry - Last post by Sean Barry
Digital snakes and compatibility

I have a Qu 32 Chrome and am considering the move to a digital snake and stage boxes. ProCo has some offerings for the snake

Musician's Friend SKU J00647 000001000 ProCo 150' cat5 $107
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/pro-co-ethercon-ethercon-cat5e-4p-shielded/j00647000001000?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CjwKCAjwjJjOBRBVEiwAfvnvBP2XVHclNSbDNjtsDydOAStA55KSBRRqOEeVKOi43KZr0i8V-cQp-BoCV2cQAvD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid^221957295827-device^c-plaid^376911720927-sku^J00647000001000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA

Sweet Water ProCo 150' cat5 $220  Manufacturer part#  C270201-150F
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EtherShld150
or this
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Ethercon150    $169
This would be used indoors and out for live mixes of bands.
     I can't see the differences? As far as the pricing? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

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 on: Today at 11:18:32 am 
Started by Rob Bernstein - Last post by Dave Pluke
Dumbing down the DRPA to xover only functionality still leaves it in the signal chain, adding an additional A/D and D/A conversion on a really average processor.

Not debating that issue, but it should be pointed out that the PA2 is the next generation and a vast improvement (IMHO) over the PA, PA+ and, especially, the PX.

Dave

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 on: Today at 10:37:13 am 
Started by Steven Cohen - Last post by Steven Cohen
Thanks Stephen for the response.

 You correct in stating that I was referring to using the manufacturer supplied ground screw on the generator connected to a copper ground wire that runs between my pool pump and AC. I was not planning on making any type of internal modification or ground to neutral adapter.

 My original plan was to output the 30 amp/125volt, twist lock receptacle on the generator, connecting a 100 foot, 10/3, GenTran cord with a quad box. Each duplex on the quad box has its own 20 amp breaker. Here is a link to a 25 foot version of the same setup.

https://www.amazon.com/gentran-generator-contractor-receptacles-b10325dw/dp/b001ulbrn2


 For clarity, my original concern was that I would have potentially two paths to ground, one being the known ground of the connection between the ground screw on the generator and the copper bond between my AC and pool pump, and the potential ground of the security chain wrapped around the metal handle of the generator and the other end of the security chain wrapped around an aluminum fence. I was not sure if having two paths to ground, if the aluminum fence is grounded, was unsafe.

I am still a bit unclear if I ground the floating neutral inverter generator using the ground screw connected to a copper ground is unsafe. That is the reason why I am now looking into a manual transfer switch when I have the new electrical service panels installed. I am not sure if an interlock will work because I have my main breaker on one panel outside near the meter, and a sub panel in the garage for the rest of the house, I will ask the electrician if this is an option.

Another issue I will face if I connect the generator to the main service panel is that the main panel is in the front of the townhouse. I want to keep the generator at the rear of the townhouse so it is out of plain view. The townhouse is two floors and connected on both sides. It will be a difficult, expensive run. That is why I originally opted for the single GenTran extension cord with a quad box. But if I cannot ensure that it is as safe as connection to the service panel, the expense is worth the costs.

Thanks again to everyone who has responded with suggestions,
Steve
 

         

My understanding is that he was using the ground screw on the genny-which is essentially the frame of the genny to bond to the fence/egc.  This has absolutely NOTHING to do with ground-neutral bonding-which on that genny could only be accomplished by an internal modification or some sort of a G-N adapter as has been discussed in other threads.  Making sure the fence is in fact bonded to the install (not just earth grounded) adds a significant measure of safety to this setup-even if the genny is connected through a transfer switch and thus bonded to ground.  There was a recent electrocution (Kansas, I believe) of a child that in all liklihood would have been prevented had the fence been bonded to the electrical service (no matter if that is a genny or mains).

I would argue that a GFCI still provides protection in the case of a double fault.  Sure-it won't detect current flowing from line-line.  GFCI's never will, but if fault current takes an  alternate path bypassing any part of the proper circuit of a GFCI it will still trip.  If there is no path for fault current to follow to trip the GFCI, then there is no path for fault current to follow to electrocute somebody.  I'd rather have the GFCI present in case a fault occurs that I am not aware of-either in the genny or something attached to the genny-that essentially bonds one side of the circuit making it a "neutral".

Stephen,

Not sure what panel you are installing.  Several manufacturers make UL listed kits to allow a breaker in the panel to be interlocked with the main and backfed to be used as a transfer switch.  This is usually far more cost effective than a seperate transfer switch and very easy to incorporate during an upgrade like this.  I've installed several and never had an inspector have an issue.  Just an option to explore.

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 on: Today at 09:18:02 am 
Started by Richard Penrose - Last post by Douglas R. Allen
When a person has a conventional Bass amp / Speaker configuration and you take the D.I. out from the head instead of mic'ing the cabinet aren't you using a modeler of sort anyway? Yes depending on the room size and stage volume it could be just a blend but in larger setups with most of the sound coming from the Main PA your using a Modeler of sorts when using D.I. out on the head. Now when you the FOH person bring one in I'd just make sure its what the player wants.  1 band I do regularly uses his bass amp head with no speaker attached going to me for FOH and his IEM mix.  I see nothing wrong so long as everyone is in agreement.

Douglas R. Allen

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 on: Today at 09:10:06 am 
Started by Scott Holtzman - Last post by Gary Greyhosky
Dream gig wish list: Frank Zappa, Pat Metheny, Lyle Lovett and his Large Band, Take 6, Gordon Goodwins Big Phat Band.

Dream gigs I've actually mixed: Ron Carter Trio, Turtle Island Quartet, The Brubeck Brothers,
The Mersey Beatles (about as close as you'll get to mixing the actual Beatles), Stan Kenton alumni band.

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 on: Today at 09:06:25 am 
Started by Ray Aberle - Last post by Kevin Graf
What kind of 50 milers? What conditions?

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 on: Today at 05:56:02 am 
Started by MIKE Lynn - Last post by radulescu_paul_mircea
M-force is really nice, but you can still do EDM with dual 18", you just need to bring a serious one to your gig.

https://www.facebook.com/bernie.broderick/videos/10154803326492539/
https://www.facebook.com/bernie.broderick/videos/10154805721012539/
Yes, of course you can. Having 80 18" TLW3000 and 104 B&C 15"SW115 drivers rubbed by 184 *1700 watt Powersoft amp modules really helps in an EDM concert . ANYA and Otto are really incredible.the OTTO is not about shear force. It's an extremely good and reliable tool to help fill the deep end of the Anya's ,which are very powerful down low by themselves.
This was last week, used in a market with 60K people and at 20-80 meters it sounded like a studio monitor flat to 25 Hz everywhere.

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