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Title: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 11, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
So Infocomm starts a week from today in Vegas.

Who's going?

What products are you interested in?

Of course the "off topics" (like video) have all the really cool things and get a lot of the buzz on the show floor (but most people can't afford what they are showing--------)
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Josh Millward on June 11, 2014, 04:18:24 PM
I will be there.

I am hoping to be able to get out of our booth and see some of the other booths that are around.

I know one thing for sure, I'm definitely going to be checking out Danley's Demo room.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Doug Fowler on June 11, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
So Infocomm starts a week from today in Vegas.

Who's going?

What products are you interested in?

Of course the "off topics" (like video) have all the really cool things and get a lot of the buzz on the show floor (but most people can't afford what they are showing--------)

I'm interested in a new sub..... ;-)
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 11, 2014, 04:33:56 PM
I'm interested in a new sub..... ;-)
I'm sure there will be plenty of those-and also all sorts of other new speakers and ideas/concepts.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 11, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
I will be there.

I am hoping to be able to get out of our booth and see some of the other booths that are around.

I know one thing for sure, I'm definitely going to be checking out Danley's Demo room.
I am like you-stuck on the show floor most of the time.  But I do try to find a few minutes here and there-between walking between the show floor and the demo room to see things others are doing.

I do miss the days where I was able to spend all the time walking the floor and visiting many demo rooms.  Oh well------------

Let's just say there will be "interesting" new things at the show----------  Products that nobody has heard and didn't exist a few days ago--literally :o
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Cailen Waddell on June 11, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
Think there will be some Facebook posts of the new things for people who can't make it?


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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Bob Focus on June 11, 2014, 06:24:26 PM
So Infocomm starts a week from today in Vegas.

Who's going?

What products are you interested in?

Of course the "off topics" (like video) have all the really cool things and get a lot of the buzz on the show floor (but most people can't afford what they are showing--------)


OWI will definitely be there. We will be introducing 2 of our most popular products. Our amplified ceiling speaker with bluetooth capability and our Mercury Pendant speaker with subwoofer. www.owi-inc.com
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 11, 2014, 06:29:13 PM
Think there will be some Facebook posts of the new things for people who can't make it?


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I am sure there will be, from individual companies.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 11, 2014, 06:30:00 PM

OWI will definitely be there. We will be introducing 2 of our most popular products. Our amplified ceiling speaker with bluetooth capability and our Mercury Pendant speaker with subwoofer. www.owi-inc.com
Forum rules require the use of REAL first and last names here.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Jason Lavoie on June 11, 2014, 08:02:05 PM

OWI will definitely be there. We will be introducing 2 of our most popular products. Our amplified ceiling speaker with bluetooth capability and our Mercury Pendant speaker with subwoofer. www.owi-inc.com

Not to nit-pick here, but how can a product be "introduced" if it is already one of your most popular products?

Jason
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Caleb Dueck on June 11, 2014, 11:06:02 PM
I'm interested in a new sub..... ;-)
As am I.  Maybe we'll hear it at the same time.

I'll be at the show, and definitely at the Danley demo room.


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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 12, 2014, 07:09:12 AM
As am I.  Maybe we'll hear it at the same time.

I'll be at the show, and definitely at the Danley demo room.


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It will be there-as a pair :)
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OWI will definitely be there.

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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Josh Millward on June 12, 2014, 11:43:54 AM
It will be there-as a pair :)
Oh man... I can't wait to see this!
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Frederik Rosenkjær on June 12, 2014, 12:15:02 PM
There better be some news articles and/or video coming out real quick for the rest of us! The suspense is killing us.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Craig Leerman on June 12, 2014, 06:36:05 PM
I'm not going to Vegas, I'm STAYING in Vegas for InfoCOMM!   ;D

Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Bob Focus on June 12, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
I will be there.

I am hoping to be able to get out of our booth and see some of the other booths that are around.

I know one thing for sure, I'm definitely going to be checking out Danley's Demo room.

Be sure to drop by OWI-INC's booth. We're looking to add a little flavor to the conference ourselves. We will be there promoting our new Mercury 360° Degree Pendant Speaker and our Amplified InCeiling Speaker with Bluetooth Capability and woofer.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 12, 2014, 08:18:41 PM
Be sure to drop by OWI-INC's booth. We're looking to add a little flavor to the conference ourselves. We will be there promoting our new Mercury 360° Degree Pendant Speaker and our Amplified InCeiling Speaker with Bluetooth Capability and woofer.
Help me here.  What is the intended usage/advantage of a bluetooth ceiling speaker?
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: John Moore on June 12, 2014, 08:19:07 PM
Going...to see old friends, make new ones and see what is up in audio for live production, installs, etc. as well as video and lighting...
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Frank Koenig on June 13, 2014, 02:00:44 AM
I'll be there Tuesday through Thursday. First time for me. Should be fun. --Frank
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Josh Millward on June 13, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
(CarnivalHawkerMode)
Y'all come on down and check out Professor Peavey's Amazing Torture Tests.

We will be busy breaking networks, drilling holes, and demonstrating lasers!

Also introducing the first networked edge device that uses BOTH CobraNet AND Dante!
(/CarnivalHawkerMode)

So yeah, come on by and say hi!
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 13, 2014, 04:58:01 PM
(CarnivalHawkerMode)
Y'all come on down and check out Professor Peavey's Amazing Torture Tests.

We will be busy breaking networks, drilling holes, and demonstrating lasers!

Also introducing the first networked edge device that uses BOTH CobraNet AND Dante!
(/CarnivalHawkerMode)

So yeah, come on by and say hi!
Then come to the Danley demo room for a free acoustic massage ;)
(at the end of the demo) and some ear/eye opening products.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Brandon Wright on June 13, 2014, 06:03:32 PM
It will be there-as a pair :)

It? Was there a discussion I missed somewhere about "it"?
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 13, 2014, 06:49:03 PM
It? Was there a discussion I missed somewhere about "it"?
Reply #2 by Doug Fowler
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Steven Barnes on June 14, 2014, 09:07:50 PM
I am heading out late Tuesday will be at the shop Wednesday and Thursday, meeting with quite a few of our vendors and catching up with some old friends. See you guys out there.

Any thing that we must see?
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 15, 2014, 12:20:20 AM
I am heading out late Tuesday will be at the shop Wednesday and Thursday, meeting with quite a few of our vendors and catching up with some old friends. See you guys out there.

Any thing that we must see?
It all depends on what you are interested in. 

What is a "must see" from some people doesn't mean anything to other people.

Every body has different aspects of the business they are interested in.

I will say that Danley has 9 new products since last Infocomm.  Some VERY new-as in less than a handfull of people in the world have heard them-including Tom Danley and other employees-------

They will be at the demo room-along with some other things I can't talk about yet-before the show.  But let's just say there is something really cool (or we think so anyway :)  )
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Mike Maly on June 15, 2014, 02:47:19 AM
I'll be going Monday thru Thursday. Doing the CTS exam Monday, listening rooms Tuesday, training and meetings Wednesday and Thursday. I'm kinda bummed I won't have more time.


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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: David Sturzenbecher on June 15, 2014, 04:06:56 AM
I'll be there Monday through Saturday. Checking out the networking seminar on Tuesday ...5 free DVS licenses!!!. I have vendor meetings jam packed wed-Friday and it looks to be an exhausting week.

I'm sure all the products worth seeing will be flooding the press releases between now and Wednesday.


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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 15, 2014, 08:38:10 AM
It? Was there a discussion I missed somewhere about "it"?
"It" is being setup in the demo room-along with other "unusual and different" products.




Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: David Sturzenbecher on June 15, 2014, 10:11:50 AM

"It" is being setup in the demo room-along with other "unusual and different" products.

I think we should have a caption that photo contest... I'll start.

"And that's when chad was born"


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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Tom Danley on June 15, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
I think we should have a caption that photo contest... I'll start.

"And that's when chad was born"


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Umm..... how far can we propel Chad from the speaker with a big "Thump"?.
 
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Peter Morris on June 15, 2014, 10:37:54 AM
I think we should have a caption that photo contest... I'll start.

"And that's when chad was born"


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too funny .... you win  ;D

PS I hope it sounds better than it looks  :o
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Craig Leerman on June 15, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
Umm..... how far can we propel Chad from the speaker with a big "Thump"?.

Hey Tom,
Wouldn't the Matterhorn be better for distance?

And just a reminder, I think it's your turn to buy dinner this year.

Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Craig Leerman on June 15, 2014, 02:21:44 PM
I'll be going Monday thru Thursday. Doing the CTS exam Monday, listening rooms Tuesday, training and meetings Wednesday and Thursday. I'm kinda bummed I won't have more time.


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Good Luck on the exam Mike. Do a few of the practice tests and you will be all set.

Craig
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: David Sturzenbecher on June 15, 2014, 03:15:33 PM
Good Luck on the exam Mike. Do a few of the practice tests and you will be all set.

Craig

I took the CTS exam a few years ago. It was probably the easiest test I have taken.  Then I took the CTS-I...and that was even easier. I hear the CTS-D is a little tougher, but havent hit that one up yet.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Mike Pyle on June 15, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
(http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=150138.0;attach=11195;image)

Looks like some kinda Infra Uterine Device.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: John Fruits on June 16, 2014, 12:12:28 AM
It's not uncommon to have someone "dancing" in front of the subs, but is that guy doing the chicken dance IN the sub?
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Steven Barnes on June 16, 2014, 06:59:29 PM
It all depends on what you are interested in. 

What is a "must see" from some people doesn't mean anything to other people.

Every body has different aspects of the business they are interested in.

I will say that Danley has 9 new products since last Infocomm.  Some VERY new-as in less than a handfull of people in the world have heard them-including Tom Danley and other employees-------

They will be at the demo room-along with some other things I can't talk about yet-before the show.  But let's just say there is something really cool (or we think so anyway :)  )

Sounds good, I'll swing by to check them out, we had a couple danley guys in the shop a couple weeks back with some new stuff to demo.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 17, 2014, 09:52:48 AM
(http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=150138.0;attach=11195;image)

Looks like some kinda Infra Uterine Device.
Nah-it is a "marital aid" ;)
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Jon Waller on June 17, 2014, 12:04:50 PM
"It" is being setup in the demo room-along with other "unusual and different" products.

Is that the Comically Unusual New Technology Sub?

All it needs is some rat fur applied around the opening...
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Mike Maly on June 18, 2014, 03:19:59 AM

Good Luck on the exam Mike. Do a few of the practice tests and you will be all set.

Craig
Thanks Craig! Took the test Monday and passed!


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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 18, 2014, 09:28:29 AM
Thanks Craig! Took the test Monday and passed!


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It always feels good when you "pass the test"-whatever it may be ;)
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Franz Francis on June 19, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
Umm..... how far can we propel Chad from the speaker with a big "Thump"?.

what freq is the minus 3 of the new BC 218 sub?

Franz
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 20, 2014, 02:19:03 AM
what freq is the minus 3 of the new BC 218 sub?

Franz
We don't official specs yet-as the cabinets were finished up right before they were loaded on a truck to go to the show.

We will get more data after the show.

But a "quick estimate" is the real -3dB (as measured from the rated sensitivity) is around 23-24Hz -But don't hold me to that yet
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Caleb Dueck on June 20, 2014, 05:20:22 PM
We don't official specs yet-as the cabinets were finished up right before they were loaded on a truck to go to the show.

We will get more data after the show.

But a "quick estimate" is the real -3dB (as measured from the rated sensitivity) is around 23-24Hz -But don't hold me to that yet
At the demo, the BC218's even at moderate SPL drew cheers from most of the crowd.  We're already looking at which projects to put them in. 

The SBH family is also very impressive.

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Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Craig Leerman on June 21, 2014, 04:53:35 AM
Thanks Craig! Took the test Monday and passed!


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Congrats Mike! Welcome to the CTS family.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Kristian Stevenson on June 22, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
I too attended Infocomm for the first time this year and have to agree, the Danley demo room was among the best things I heard/saw. Never heard their products before and was extremely impressed.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: David Sturzenbecher on June 22, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
I too attended Infocomm for the first time this year and have to agree, the Danley demo room was among the best things I heard/saw. Never heard their products before and was extremely impressed.

While I didn't go to all, the Renkus Heinz room was my favorite this year. I am not sure what it is, but their products do it for me.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 22, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
I too attended Infocomm for the first time this year and have to agree, the Danley demo room was among the best things I heard/saw. Never heard their products before and was extremely impressed.
We took a different approach this year to the demo room.

We brought mostly new product-not the "standard offerings" that Danley is know for.

There just wasn't enough time to show all the products.

Glad you enjoyed it.

I did not have time to visit many demos-but did "stick my head" into a few.

What stood out to me is how bad the spoken word was in a number of rooms.

They just did not seem to care about that-yet that is one of the first things that gets my attention.

How natural is it?  With music-we really don't know what it is "supposed" to sound like in many cases (except traditional instruments)-but with voice it is real easy to tell if it is natural or not-even if you don't know the person talking.

But I guess it all depends on what somebody is "looking for" in a product.

To me it is natural reproduction.

Don't try to sell me something when it is uncomfortable to listen to you.

But maybe that is just me-------------  I am "different"--------
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: David Sturzenbecher on June 22, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
We took a different approach this year to the demo room.

We brought mostly new product-not the "standard offerings" that Danley is know for.

There just wasn't enough time to show all the products.

Glad you enjoyed it.

I did not have time to visit many demos-but did "stick my head" into a few.

What stood out to me is how bad the spoken word was in a number of rooms.

They just did not seem to care about that-yet that is one of the first things that gets my attention.

How natural is it?  With music-we really don't know what it is "supposed" to sound like in many cases (except traditional instruments)-but with voice it is real easy to tell if it is natural or not-even if you don't know the person talking.

But I guess it all depends on what somebody is "looking for" in a product.

To me it is natural reproduction.

Don't try to sell me something when it is uncomfortable to listen to you.

But maybe that is just me-------------  I am "different"--------

The one thing that many companies did which at first was kinda boring, but turned out to be really great...is playing the same tracks. It's makes comparing products and brands easier.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Jordan Wolf on June 22, 2014, 10:57:56 PM

The one thing that many companies did which at first was kinda boring, but turned out to be really great...is playing the same tracks. It's makes comparing products and brands easier.
Side comment here...

It might be kind of cool if there was a way to stream high-quality music to the exhibitors so that there would be a standard reference point throughout the entire venue...you get a streaming box with XLR outs, and hook it up.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Matthew Knischewsky on June 22, 2014, 11:45:13 PM
What stood out to me is how bad the spoken word was in a number of rooms.

I have to agree. I'm sitting through some demos wondering why I would buy speakers from a company when their product is presented so poorly. It's hard to take the marketing guy seriously when they're pumping up all of their large scale installations and how well their products work and yet they're having trouble getting natural sounding speech to 50 people in a meeting room.

Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 23, 2014, 07:35:46 AM
Side comment here...

It might be kind of cool if there was a way to stream high-quality music to the exhibitors so that there would be a standard reference point throughout the entire venue...you get a streaming box with XLR outs, and hook it up.
But not everybody want the same tracks.  And they use different tracks for different products.

It is not a comparison, but rather an introduction to products and concepts.

Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: John Halliburton on June 23, 2014, 08:21:09 AM
But not everybody want the same tracks.  And they use different tracks for different products.

It is not a comparison, but rather an introduction to products and concepts.

Plus, aural memory is notoriously short lived.

Best regards,

John
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on June 23, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
Today with high quality audio coming from small portable devices, the serious tire-kicker should bring his own tracks to listen to. IIRC some already do. While half the time somebody at a NAMM show gave me a CD to play, they were pimping their CD, not really listening to the system.

JR 
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Jason Lavoie on June 24, 2014, 04:37:14 AM
What stood out to me is how bad the spoken word was in a number of rooms.

They just did not seem to care about that-yet that is one of the first things that gets my attention.

One in particular was so bad that when I swung by mid demo I didn't make it past the door.
The only reason I might have stuck around would have been to hear the guy's voice unamplified to compare.

Jason
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Keith Broughton on June 24, 2014, 06:22:21 AM
I have to agree. I'm sitting through some demos wondering why I would buy speakers from a company when their product is presented so poorly. It's hard to take the marketing guy seriously when they're pumping up all of their large scale installations and how well their products work and yet they're having trouble getting natural sounding speech to 50 people in a meeting room.
I'm with Matt on this one.
How hard is it for an audio company to get the spoken word right!
Very frustrating >:(
"physician heal thyself"
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: Ivan Beaver on June 24, 2014, 07:35:27 AM
I have to agree. I'm sitting through some demos wondering why I would buy speakers from a company when their product is presented so poorly. It's hard to take the marketing guy seriously when they're pumping up all of their large scale installations and how well their products work and yet they're having trouble getting natural sounding speech to 50 people in a meeting room.
I have seen this from even the most respected companies out there.

And some things would be EASY to correct-such as the overloaded mic pre--------

I guess you are supposed to just believe what they are telling you-and not actually listen to what they are doing/providing.
Title: Re: Infocomm starts a week from today
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on June 24, 2014, 10:18:18 AM
I've probably been guilty of my share of that... Trade show demos are usually about showcasing some new products not always using the best system for the space. Sound rooms inside trade show booths can be horrible sonic spaces, and systems are generally operated by marketing types, better at talking that setting up systems. The character of a small sound room will change dramatically between empty and when the meat puppets are packed in like sardines. So even if set up right ahead of time, things change. 

For several years I worked a booth where I had separate acoustic space next to a larger sound room with a window between us like a studio control room. I had a split off the snake and could run open mics through a console and studio monitors in my space. Trust me the band sounded a lot better in my room than in the live room. In my judgement more because of the room/gear than the operators. while I ran much lower SPL. Sometimes the demo is just physically impossible to get right. For years at Frankfurt, I would try to demo a recording console using a split from a live stage inside a sound room. Since I was out in the hall I had strict SPL limits that affected my mix. The LF bleed from the live band playing several meters away required me to get the rest of the mix level up to sound even... The sound polizie kept dinging me to turn down the bass, and I'd have to show them how it didn't go away when I tuned my system completely off. I'm sure the majority that walked by without stopping, thought I had sh__ for ears and did a bass heavy mix on purpose.  8)

Over the years I have experienced many operator errors from non-sound men running sound demos. Just because people work for a large equipment manufacturer does not automatically make them experts at operating that same equipment, even if their bosses think they should be. 

This is no excuse and it does distract from the message.

JR