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Title: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Bob Leonard on December 26, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
Can anyone take this award seriously based on the choices given to vote on. This is a joke plain and simple. where do these choices come from? Are they comprised of hardware from manufacturers who do the most advertizing? Are these choices put together by someone on crack? Was a dartboard a part of the process?? I call bullshit here with no reason to vote for mostly crap I wouldn't use on my worst day.
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 26, 2012, 10:23:13 AM
Can anyone take this award seriously based on the choices given to vote on. This is a joke plain and simple. where do these choices come from? Are they comprised of hardware from manufacturers who do the most advertizing? Are these choices put together by someone on crack? Was a dartboard a part of the process?? I call bullshit here with no reason to vote for mostly crap I wouldn't use on my worst day.

The answer is "D - All the above."
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Steve Milner on December 26, 2012, 11:37:13 AM
Can anyone take this award seriously based on the choices given to vote on. This is a joke plain and simple. where do these choices come from? Are they comprised of hardware from manufacturers who do the most advertizing? Are these choices put together by someone on crack? Was a dartboard a part of the process??

+1... complete nonsense. The nomination process seems to have been unencumbered by any actual reasoning or thought. I love the LS9... but if you're putting a $10k console in the small format console list, does it make sense to have the majority of the rest of the list populated by vastly cheaper Mackie and PreSonus offerings? What exactly are we supposed to be voting for when you're comparing an LS9 to a studio-live, they're completely different products in completely different leagues (not saying one is worse, just aimed at a different markets entirely). 
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS on December 26, 2012, 12:47:20 PM
+1... complete nonsense. The nomination process seems to have been unencumbered by any actual reasoning or thought. I love the LS9... but if you're putting a $10k console in the small format console list, does it make sense to have the majority of the rest of the list populated by vastly cheaper Mackie and PreSonus offerings? What exactly are we supposed to be voting for when you're comparing an LS9 to a studio-live, they're completely different products in completely different leagues (not saying one is worse, just aimed at a different markets entirely).

I have been looking for a compact digital mixing console for a long time.  I looked at everything over the last couple years.  From LS9s to M7s and the SC48.  I ended up buying a couple small consoles, the A&H GLD80s.  Now come to find out it is a large format console, damn!  I wanted small format consoles with large performance.  I guess I screwed the pooch on this one.
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on December 26, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
I'm shocked. :-)

JR
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: g'bye, Dick Rees on December 26, 2012, 01:40:30 PM
Can anyone take this award seriously based on the choices given to vote on. This is a joke plain and simple. where do these choices come from? Are they comprised of hardware from manufacturers who do the most advertizing? Are these choices put together by someone on crack? Was a dartboard a part of the process?? I call bullshit here with no reason to vote for mostly crap I wouldn't use on my worst day.

What?  No "Best Kick Mic"?
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Ivan Beaver on December 26, 2012, 02:11:50 PM
I haven't seen the "poll", but do know there are lots of  "contests" that require a hefty entrance fee.  If you don't pay the fee-you don't even make the list.

So what the "people" are really voting on is not the best gear-but the best (or most popular-whatever that means)gear among the list of manufacturers who paid the entrance fee.

And who qualifies the vote?  Is it actually gear you have OWNED?  or gear you would LIKE to have-but will never be able to afford it? 

About like the guys who "discuss" which high end car is best.  Yet they will never be able to afford it-much less ever drive one.  Probably will never even see one.  Yet if there were voting-a lot of votes would be cast.  And they mean WHAT???????????????????

Yet they will debate it wildly.  Pretty much worthless if you ask me.
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Mike Christy on December 26, 2012, 06:38:01 PM
I'm as perplexed as you Bob. On a good note, they did not included Cerwin Vega DJ subs like they did in the sub roundup in the magazine... that one really threw me.
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Bob Leonard on December 26, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
I'm as perplexed as you Bob. On a good note, they did not included Cerwin Vega DJ subs like they did in the sub roundup in the magazine... that one really threw me.

Just like the speakers. All the great drivers in the world and half of the drivers listed are Eminence. Not even a JBL on the list.
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Ivan Beaver on December 26, 2012, 09:15:13 PM

Just like the speakers. All the great drivers in the world and half of the drivers listed are Eminence. Not even a JBL on the list.
Somethings really make you wonder.  Like when Jethro Tull won the "Best Heavy Metal album" years ago------

Since when was Tull a Metal band????????????????????

Who put them on the list???????????????

Do they have a clue?????????????????

The answer is NO!
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: g'bye, Dick Rees on December 27, 2012, 08:49:50 AM
Somethings really make you wonder.  Like when Jethro Tull won the "Best Heavy Metal album" years ago------

Since when was Tull a Metal band????????????????????

Who put them on the list???????????????

Do they have a clue?????????????????

The answer is NO!

I once received a plaque from the Minnesota Music Association for "Best Polka Bass Player".
It felt odd as I had been working for my entire career to that point as a guitar and fiddle player.  I did, however, take up playing bass in a bluegrass  band a couple of years later.....

Maybe a seemingly inappropriate award is just some kind of psychic precursor.
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Steve Hurt on January 07, 2013, 10:47:29 AM
Somethings really make you wonder.  Like when Jethro Tull won the "Best Heavy Metal album" years ago------

Since when was Tull a Metal band????????????????????

Who put them on the list???????????????

Do they have a clue?????????????????

The answer is NO!


I'd vote for Tull over Metallica any day
although Metallica does have a louder kik drum
Title: Re: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Mike Diack on January 08, 2013, 06:18:28 PM
Can anyone take this award seriously based on the choices given to vote on. This is a joke plain and simple. where do these choices come from? Are they comprised of hardware from manufacturers who do the most advertizing? Are these choices put together by someone on crack? Was a dartboard a part of the process?? I call bullshit here with no reason to vote for mostly crap I wouldn't use on my worst day.
Power Amps : 5 different Powersofts, one Crown and NO (yep count 'em........ 0) QSCs.
M
Title: The PSW 2013 readers choice awards - Is this a joke?
Post by: Samuel Rees on January 10, 2013, 11:50:55 PM
I started to take it.... but it quickly got weird and I stopped. Kind of silly.