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Title: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on September 21, 2017, 12:56:06 PM
Let me just say that I really like my Shure SM35 headset mic.
However, my only back up is my Shure PGA31 which lacks quality sound - I would only use it in a pinch. I need a better secondary mic.

As you guys already know I sing backing whilst running sound for one of the bands Chris plays in and I use a headset whilst mixing from the crowd. The SM35 works well because it is cardioid - so very little pick up from audience or FOH and it gives me enough clarity for my needs. I don't need much more as I sing very few lead parts.
I find the headsets to be quite fragile - they have to be to a certain extent I understand - but although I am crazy careful about mine, this worries me sometimes that if my headset was damaged or just stopped working I wouldn't have a decent back-up.
So..... I could just go ahead and get a second SM35 OR I could try something different just 'cos.

What would be a good alternative under $200 for me to try?
(I would have to have the TA4f connector for my Shure pack).
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Robert Piascik on September 21, 2017, 01:26:34 PM
Crown CM311 or a second one of what you have. I use the Crown and just like you I wanted a second one for a back up. Over the years I've acquired about four of them and interchange parts as different things break so that's a vote for getting the same thing
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on September 21, 2017, 01:36:26 PM
Crown CM311 or a second one of what you have. I use the Crown and just like you I wanted a second one for a back up. Over the years I've acquired about four of them and interchange parts as different things break so that's a vote for getting the same thing

Good point about parts being interchangeable with same purchase - thanks Robert.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John L Nobile on September 21, 2017, 01:48:05 PM
Crown CM311 or a second one of what you have. I use the Crown and just like you I wanted a second one for a back up. Over the years I've acquired about four of them and interchange parts as different things break so that's a vote for getting the same thing

I've gone through a lot of Crown CM311's over the years. I think their sound quality and feedback rejection is great. However, I noticed a drop in build quality after they were acquired by AKG. I started going through a lot more after that.

Lately I noticed noise with my Shure ULX-D systems. The noise seemed to be caused by interference between the body pack and the inline transformer (?) on the mic. I wound up switching to Shure SM35's and no longer had the noise. There's threads about CM311's and digital systems on the web. Never had a problem with my old U4D system.

Bottom line was that I found the CM311 to be my fav mic but it was expensive and fragile and the noise was annoying. SM35 works very well though and it's relatively cheap. A little cut on the hi end smooths it out but the sibilance can be very pronounced depending on your singer. It's also more comfortable and less visible.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: lindsay Dean on September 21, 2017, 02:19:37 PM
 why not have a  decent spare corded mic
ready, just in case.
question
When you sing from the console,
the time arrival must be a problem.
You use headphones during these moments, right
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on September 21, 2017, 02:53:14 PM
why not have a  decent spare corded mic
ready, just in case.
question
When you sing from the console,
the time arrival must be a problem.
You use headphones during these moments, right

I have many corded mics but how could that work from where I am located? ....I have thought about trying to get a line6 wireless instrument pack to work with an SM58 - not sure how the impedance would be and I'd need to wire a cord from XLR to Ts. I'd then need a mic stand so I can be hands free though so it would be too complicated...

Yes - there is some latency that I have had to get used to. I cannot use iems because I'd be constantly putting the phones in and taking them off as my vocals are in virtually every song and I'd not be able to hear FOH..... I have to compromise a bit. Over the ears don't work well due to the outside sound creeping in.
It isn't too much of a problem for vocals as singing doesn't stick to a beat but I tried to hit a tamborine one time and the guys shook their heads violently - apparently it sounded way off to them and so percussion does NOT work.
My biggest thing to get used to is that my voice in my head is ahead of my voice through the PA so I always sound (to me) like I have a lot of ADT on my voice. Others tell me it sounds fine to them so I go with that. My other issue is blending me in with everyone else because of that voice in my head so I have a friend who comes to basically all the shows and helps me with my levels when I sing - I have gotten so used to it though that I get the blend pretty good these days.
I also have to choose carefully where I sit to mix- too far away and the latency is bad - but too close and I can get some feedback.

It is a whole different animal and takes some experimentation for sure....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Jason Glass on September 21, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
Lately I noticed noise with my Shure ULX-D systems. The noise seemed to be caused by interference between the body pack and the inline transformer (?) on the mic. I wound up switching to Shure SM35's and no longer had the noise. There's threads about CM311's and digital systems on the web. Never had a problem with my old U4D system.

Bottom line was that I found the CM311 to be my fav mic but it was expensive and fragile and the noise was annoying.
As my favorite headset mic of all time (for off axis rejection, gain before feedback, and overall vocal audio quality) I was crushed to discover that it's a known and well documented fact that CM311 variants are incompatible with all of the current digital wireless TX modulation schemes. They exhibit an awful swishing sound because their shielding and RF rejection is insufficient for the application. I learned this the hard way, on a gig.

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Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Robert Lofgren on September 22, 2017, 02:10:17 AM
If you are thinking of the line6 wireless pack for your sm35 (works really great btw) then you can just buy a spare line6 handheld mic for the receiver. Their mics sound really good and I have used my mics for at least four years.

Be aware of that the latest line6 wireless is not compatible with the older gear.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Ferreira on July 03, 2018, 07:52:32 PM
Hi Debbie, bringing this thread back to life, what headset did you end up getting?

My expensive DPA D:Fine ($1100 CDN) is beginning to become intermittent, and to my horror it’s not the cable. I do front singing and guitar playing for a living, and vary between the D:Fine headset and an Audio Technica AE3300 on a stand.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 03, 2018, 08:20:43 PM
Hi Debbie, bringing this thread back to life, what headset did you end up getting?

My expensive DPA D:Fine ($1100 CDN) is beginning to become intermittent, and to my horror it’s not the cable. I do front singing and guitar playing for a living, and vary between the D:Fine headset and an Audio Technica AE3300 on a stand.

Well you are not going to believe this - and if you do, you won't believe the results I am getting. I got a Pyle PMEM -S23... cost me $17.
I took a chance based on a couple of things I read online and I figured $17 wasn't much of a risk. Sound wise it is unbelievably good and compares to the Shure VERY favorably. So much so I use it all the time. Build quality is not so good and I don't think it would take any abuse. I have tried to buy more as back up but they stopped making them so that sucks. I did comment in another thread regarding this and was hoping to get another 1 or 2 of these but according to Pyle there isn't a substitute with a Shure connector so I suppose I'll be looking again..... sorry.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Mark Cadwallader on July 03, 2018, 10:31:57 PM
Well you are not going to believe this - and if you do, you won't believe the results I am getting. I got a Pyle PMEM -S23... cost me $17.
I took a chance based on a couple of things I read online and I figured $17 wasn't much of a risk. Sound wise it is unbelievably good and compares to the Shure VERY favorably. So much so I use it all the time. Build quality is not so good and I don't think it would take any abuse. I have tried to buy more as back up but they stopped making them so that sucks. I did comment in another thread regarding this and was hoping to get another 1 or 2 of these but according to Pyle there isn't a substitute with a Shure connector so I suppose I'll be looking again..... sorry.

Debbie, there are various vendors that will put a TA4F end on a headworn mic.  Microphone Madness in Florida is one that I know of for certain that offers that service.  At least it is an option to ponder.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 03, 2018, 10:35:55 PM
Debbie, there are various vendors that will put a TA4F end on a headworn mic.  Microphone Madness in Florida is one that I know of for certain that offers that service.  At least it is an option to ponder.

Thanks Mark.... I might end up doing that. I'll see what I come across in my travels...
Title: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Ferreira on July 04, 2018, 07:55:03 AM
Well you are not going to believe this - and if you do, you won't believe the results I am getting. I got a Pyle PMEM -S23... cost me $17.
I took a chance based on a couple of things I read online and I figured $17 wasn't much of a risk. Sound wise it is unbelievably good and compares to the Shure VERY favorably. So much so I use it all the time. Build quality is not so good and I don't think it would take any abuse. I have tried to buy more as back up but they stopped making them so that sucks. I did comment in another thread regarding this and was hoping to get another 1 or 2 of these but according to Pyle there isn't a substitute with a Shure connector so I suppose I'll be looking again..... sorry.

Thanks Debbie.

Interesting. I tried cheap $20.00 mics before, from Amazon, but feedback kicks in furiously, and singing into them right after singing through a DPA D:fine is demoralizing to say the least.

DPA as you may already know, used to be in the medical field doing hearing aids, before shifting to audio microphones, and their transducers are high quality and very linear.

Too bad they are so fragile and expensive.



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Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: David Allred on July 04, 2018, 10:44:31 AM
I have tried to buy more as back up but they stopped making them so that sucks. I did comment in another thread regarding this and was hoping to get another 1 or 2 of these but according to Pyle there isn't a substitute with a Shure connector so I suppose I'll be looking again..... sorry.

WHAT?!  :o
I should have got another when I thought about.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 04, 2018, 10:44:38 AM
Thanks Debbie.

Interesting. I tried cheap $20.00 mics before, from Amazon, but feedback kicks in furiously, and singing into them right after singing through a DPA D:fine is demoralizing to say the least.

DPA as you may already know, used to be in the medical field doing hearing aids, before shifting to audio microphones, and their transducers are high quality and very linear.

Too bad they are so fragile and expensive.



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I get no more feedback with the Pyle than I have with any others in the past - in fact I get less than with the Shure. That would be a deal breaker for me because I am positioned in front of the PA and the feedback risk is greater for me dependent on where I am located at missing position.
I agree with 'You get what you pay for' but it depends on what you are willing to give up. With the Pyle, I give up name brand, quality of build and comfort of headband -but for me, these things do not matter as much as they might to someone else. Sound quality is darn good.
Name brand is irrelevant, quietly of build means I have to be very careful how it is handled and transported and I wear a hat at shows with the headband over the top so comfort doesn't matter either.
I have A/B'd the Pyle to the Shure ( which I realize is also not an expensive model) but it is clearer and suits my voice a little better.
It's a winner and I wish I could get something as good with better build quietly that isn't too expensive.
I seem to  only be able to ever find mics that do not sound any better than the Pyle for < $300 - and to get better quality sound and build that is noticeable, I'd have to spend more than I am willing to at this point.

I'd like to find a nice used headset mic perhaps....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 04, 2018, 10:46:16 AM
WHAT?!  :o
I should have got another when I thought about.

Yep - sorry David...
I contacted Pyle and they told me they are no longer made and they do not make a replacement right now. I wish I had purchased 4 or 5 of them myself.....

EDIT: The PMEM-S23 is and has been available for a while through Newegg but I am not sure I trust the seller based on what I can find online. You could try them....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 04, 2018, 10:57:55 AM
This is the only one that compares but does not have the Shure connector.....(according to Pyle)
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLM31-Condenser-Microphone-Connector/dp/B00EUJF15G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527622462&sr=8-1&keywords=PLM31
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim McCulloch on July 04, 2018, 01:00:11 PM
Yep - sorry David...
I contacted Pyle and they told me they are no longer made and they do not make a replacement right now. I wish I had purchased 4 or 5 of them myself.....

EDIT: The PMEM-S23 is and has been available for a while through Newegg but I am not sure I trust the seller based on what I can find online. You could try them....

My only complaint with Newegg is the slow DHL/USPS shipping and frankly, I could spend a little more and upgrade the shipping method.

I was buying stuff from Newegg before I became an Amazon customer and I still purchase from Newegg.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 04, 2018, 05:18:34 PM
I just bought 4 of these for demos or whatever. . .

http://www.pssl.com/AKG-EC81MD-Cocoa-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Mic-s?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=web%20order%20confirmation&utm_campaign=commmerce%20haven

They should still be on sale for $49.95

I'll be lopping off whatever connector they come with and soldering on TA5F for Lectrosonics. There's a link to a Shure adapter on the sale page if you're not into solder.

What would be a good alternative under $200 for me to try?
(I would have to have the TA4f connector for my Shure pack).
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Mark Cadwallader on July 04, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
I just bought 4 of these for demos or whatever. . .

http://www.pssl.com/AKG-EC81MD-Cocoa-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Mic-s?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=web%20order%20confirmation&utm_campaign=commmerce%20haven

They should still be on sale for $49.95

I'll be lopping off whatever connector they come with and soldering on TA5F for Lectrosonics. There's a link to a Shure adapter on the sale page if you're not into solder.

Thank you for the link.  I need some basic earworn mics for non-theater use where seeing it isn't a huge deal.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 04, 2018, 11:39:41 PM
I just bought 4 of these for demos or whatever. . .

http://www.pssl.com/AKG-EC81MD-Cocoa-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Mic-s?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=web%20order%20confirmation&utm_campaign=commmerce%20haven

They should still be on sale for $49.95

I'll be lopping off whatever connector they come with and soldering on TA5F for Lectrosonics. There's a link to a Shure adapter on the sale page if you're not into solder.

Thanks Tim....I get the PSSL daily deal emails - I think I was sent a link to this yesterday. Ya think it would be decent? I wasn't sure how 'real' that list price of $549 was... I noticed the one with adaptor is $99.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 05, 2018, 12:31:09 AM
For $50 I'll take a flyer on them. It appears that MAP is $499 and B&H has 5-star reviews. I'm not direct with Harman and I don't see a price at my distributor.

Thanks Tim....I get the PSSL daily deal emails - I think I was sent a link to this yesterday. Ya think it would be decent? I wasn't sure how 'real' that list price of $549 was... I noticed the one with adaptor is $99.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Dave Garoutte on July 05, 2018, 01:23:06 AM
But the Senny adapter cost more than the mic.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 05, 2018, 12:02:25 PM
I just bought 4 of these for demos or whatever. . .

http://www.pssl.com/AKG-EC81MD-Cocoa-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Mic-s?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=web%20order%20confirmation&utm_campaign=commmerce%20haven

They should still be on sale for $49.95

I'll be lopping off whatever connector they come with and soldering on TA5F for Lectrosonics. There's a link to a Shure adapter on the sale page if you're not into solder.

I'm very comfortable soldering but unsure of the connections on a TA4F for Shure.
Could someone help me on that ?? I might just get one....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Andrew Broughton on July 05, 2018, 12:23:03 PM
I'm very comfortable soldering but unsure of the connections on a TA4F for Shure.
Could someone help me on that ?? I might just get one....
http://www.shure.com/americas/support/find-an-answer/pin-out-for-shure-bodypack-transmitters-and-preamps-ta4m-ta4f
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Dave Pluke on July 05, 2018, 12:25:27 PM
I'm very comfortable soldering but unsure of the connections on a TA4F for Shure.
Could someone help me on that ?? I might just get one....

Haven't had the "pleasure" myself, but here are a couple of videos that cover the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuvR8AYhFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81XiW-dUKE

Let us know how it goes!

Dave


Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 05, 2018, 06:13:43 PM
Haven't had the "pleasure" myself, but here are a couple of videos that cover the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuvR8AYhFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81XiW-dUKE

Let us know how it goes!

Dave

Thanks Dave - that's too easy.

I ordered 2 mics and one adaptor. I might switch out the other one to TA4f or just aim to use the same adaptor if I need to use the back up.  My concern is that modification would void the warranty ( I know at $50 who cares- right ?) but I sprung for the adaptor just to be safe right now.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Ferreira on July 06, 2018, 05:03:16 AM
Haven't had the "pleasure" myself, but here are a couple of videos that cover the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuvR8AYhFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81XiW-dUKE

Let us know how it goes!

Dave

There is not one single clip on YouTube or Google showing a DPA D:Fine cable repair.
I’m even wondering if it can be done.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 08, 2018, 02:18:37 PM
It seems that way until you start poking around inside TA connectors with a soldering iron. . .they're rated by the number of F's you'll utter while trying to solder them.



Thanks Dave - that's too easy.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 08, 2018, 02:43:41 PM
It seems that way until you start poking around inside TA connectors with a soldering iron. . .they're rated by the number of F's you'll utter while trying to solder them.

Yeah - these days I even have to use a magnifier sometimes just to solder XLR's and 1/4" jacks so I wasn't looking forward to dealing with those tiny little wires and terminals.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 08, 2018, 03:23:00 PM
I just opened one of mine up, nice unit. It's actually terminated in something like a mini-SMA connector, so the adapters just screw into that. New plan is to just order a Lectro adapter from AKG and run with it.

The zip case it comes in is nice, as well.



Yeah - these days I even have to use a magnifier sometimes just to solder XLR's and 1/4" jacks so I wasn't looking forward to dealing with those tiny little wires and terminals.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: David Allred on July 08, 2018, 03:26:45 PM
Yeah - these days I even have to use a magnifier sometimes just to solder XLR's and 1/4" jacks so I wasn't looking forward to dealing with those tiny little wires and terminals.
I thought I was the only one. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 08, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
I have to flip down the second lens on the magnifier to get the TA connectors done. My beefy paws don't help much, either.

I thought I was the only one.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Ferreira on July 08, 2018, 11:05:52 PM
I have to flip down the second lens on the magnifier to get the TA connectors done. My beefy paws don't help much, either.

Unfortunately I don’t think you can open a TA4F connector from a d:Fine 4088. At least I don’t know how.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Chris Hindle on July 09, 2018, 08:10:48 AM
I thought I was the only one.
Me three......
I used to use the magnifier/ring light thingy just when working on soldering IC's......
Chris.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 09, 2018, 11:51:12 AM
I just opened one of mine up, nice unit. It's actually terminated in something like a mini-SMA connector, so the adapters just screw into that. New plan is to just order a Lectro adapter from AKG and run with it.

The zip case it comes in is nice, as well.

Good to know Tim. Mine are not here yet- apparently stock comes back in tomorrow.

(Shows in stock on web site but order shows back ordered till 10th)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 19, 2018, 10:52:20 PM
I just opened one of mine up, nice unit. It's actually terminated in something like a mini-SMA connector, so the adapters just screw into that. New plan is to just order a Lectro adapter from AKG and run with it.

The zip case it comes in is nice, as well.

My 2 finally came today. PSSL held onto them because one small connector I also ordered was on backorder....
Anyway, I agree Tim nice little mic. I tried one out and it sounds pretty good, clear with decent rich low end - at least through my little powered speaker at home.

I won't get to use it live for a couple weeks but I'm looking forward to it. It'll be the nicest quality headset mic I've used so far.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 19, 2018, 11:41:05 PM
I'm waiting for my Lectro adapters to come in then I'll give them a shot. Not sure how crazy I am about the included earhook, definitely not as secure as my Countryman earsets, but seems to work OK. Certainly good enough for demos.

If you figure out a good way to recolor the mic, I'm all ears.

If you ever decide you want to demo a Lectrosonics wireless system, let me know.

My 2 finally came today. PSSL held onto them because one small connector I also ordered was on backorder....
Anyway, I agree Tim nice little mic. I tried one out and it sounds pretty good, clear with decent rich low end - at least through my little powered speaker at home.

I won't get to use it live for a couple weeks but I'm looking forward to it. It'll be the nicest quality headset mic I've used so far.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 20, 2018, 08:29:45 AM
I'm waiting for my Lectro adapters to come in then I'll give them a shot. Not sure how crazy I am about the included earhook, definitely not as secure as my Countryman earsets, but seems to work OK. Certainly good enough for demos.

If you figure out a good way to recolor the mic, I'm all ears.

If you ever decide you want to demo a Lectrosonics wireless system, let me know.

One of the reasons I prefer a headband style mic is because of my hair and large hoop earings getting in the way. It is more fiddly for me to wear an ear hook but I'll get used to it. I've never used one before so I have nothing to compare it to but it seems to hold on quite well for me once I've got it in place.

Heads-up, the tiny 'perspiration protector' comes off quite easily - it has a small slit in it to be able to attach and detach.  I found this out by accident - my curly 'velcro' hair got caught around it and when I took off the mic, the piece fell to the floor. I know there are 2 extras in the box but just watch out for that.

The cocoa color stands out a bit but - I'll take it for the money. Presumably the beige would be the better choice for caucasion skin, but for my application, it doesn't really matter. My other headset mics are not discreet at all ......

I see you are in CA - I'm in North Carolina - so a demo would be tough but I appreciate the offer Tim thanks.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: David Allred on July 20, 2018, 08:45:33 AM
One of the reasons I prefer a headband style mic is because of my hair and large hoop earings getting in the way. It is more fiddly for me to wear an ear hook but I'll get used to it.

Get a pair of lensless glasses, wrap and glue a v-shaped piece of rebar tie wire so that the crotch (?) is at mouth level, then attach a lavi.  Route the wire  up the wire  and along an ear stem (?).  Viola.  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 20, 2018, 08:49:18 AM
Get a pair of lensless glasses, wrap and glue a v-shaped piece of rebar tie wire so that the crotch (?) is at mouth level, then attach a lavi.  Route the wire  up the wire  and along an ear stem (?).  Viola.  ;D

Oh - I forgot to mention I also wear glasses and have to negotiate around the earpiece also.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 20, 2018, 06:39:19 PM
At 6'4" I'm oversize for UPS and have to ship LTL freight. It's inconvenient so I normally just send out the gear via UPS for a demo.


I see you are in CA - I'm in North Carolina - so a demo would be tough but I appreciate the offer Tim thanks.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 21, 2018, 02:01:55 PM
Well talk about disappointing. . .

Got my lectro adapters in the mail and played with the first mic just now. Turns out there's a broken connection somewhere in the joint where the cable meets the boom.

Tried another one and it works fine. Now to check the others.


I won't get to use it live for a couple weeks but I'm looking forward to it. It'll be the nicest quality headset mic I've used so far.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 21, 2018, 06:48:46 PM
Well talk about disappointing. . .

Got my lectro adapters in the mail and played with the first mic just now. Turns out there's a broken connection somewhere in the joint where the cable meets the boom.

Tried another one and it works fine. Now to check the others.

Oh for heaven's sake.....you know I've actually started to expect problems whenever I buy anything these days - that way I'm not disappointed if and when it occurs. When it doesn't, it's good day... Sorry Tim. Maybe I should try my other one just to be sure?

Ironically part of my order was a Switchcraft male XLR connector which I ordered along with the mics to avoid the shipping charge. I can always use them and at $3.99, I saved $17 shipping charge.
It was the reason my order was held up because it was the item on backorder. In the end I told them to send my mics anyway which they did but it only made difference of one day in the end.
The XLR connector arrived the day after the mics and was incomplete. The housing wasn't in the bag - just the insert piece. Switchcraft are drop shipping me a replacement.....gheeesh...
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: MikeHarris on July 23, 2018, 03:45:01 AM
Debbie...the 'extras in the box' you speak of are not extras but different HF response caps. Yes they do come off easily
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 23, 2018, 09:17:58 AM
Debbie...the 'extras in the box' you speak of are not extras but different HF response caps. Yes they do come off easily

No I'm not talking about the little wiremesh or foam protectors. There is a plastic piece that appears to do nothing but keep the boom away from the skin and clips to the boom itself..
In the box, the 'extras' are: wiremesh screens, foam screens, make up protectors and these little perspiration protectors.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim McCulloch on July 23, 2018, 09:26:54 AM
No I'm not talking about the little wiremesh or foam protectors. There is a plastic piece that appears to do nothing but keep the boom away from the skin and clips to the boom itself..
In the box, the 'extras' are: wiremesh screens, foam screens, make up protectors and these little perspiration protectors.


Yep, those are to help keep sweat from running down the boom and directly into the mic element.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 23, 2018, 09:39:35 AM

Yep, those are to help keep sweat from running down the boom and directly into the mic element.

Yes Tim - that's it. I only mentioned it because mine came off and got caught in my hair and the reason I didn't lose it was because when I removed the ear hook, the little protector was still hanging in my hair. It is so small, it would be impossible to see on the floor.
Good news for me is I'm not jumping around on stage so unless I am outside on a very hot day, not a lot of sweat on my face.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Ferreira on July 23, 2018, 04:09:04 PM
No I'm not talking about the little wiremesh or foam protectors. There is a plastic piece that appears to do nothing but keep the boom away from the skin and clips to the boom itself..
In the box, the 'extras' are: wiremesh screens, foam screens, make up protectors and these little perspiration protectors.

Debbie do you have a link you could kindly post? I was wondering what model and price these are.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 23, 2018, 05:11:45 PM
Debbie do you have a link you could kindly post? I was wondering what model and price these are.

AKG mic{/url] (https://smile.amazon.com/AKG-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Microphone/dp/B01LXWCV45/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532380224&sr=8-1&keywords=akg+EC81md)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Fruits on July 23, 2018, 07:32:16 PM
Interesting that the beige model is still regular price ($549.99). I wonder if they are discontinuing the cocoa model.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 23, 2018, 07:35:03 PM
Interesting that the beige model is still regular price ($549.99). I wonder if they are discontinuing the cocoa model.

Right?... I'll take cocoa at that price.....

Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 23, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
Well talk about disappointing. . .

Got my lectro adapters in the mail and played with the first mic just now. Turns out there's a broken connection somewhere in the joint where the cable meets the boom.

Tried another one and it works fine. Now to check the others.

Tim,

I just found and ordered a reconditioned a microlite AKG/Shure adaptor for my other mic for only $13 shipped on fleabay from PSSL which is where I ordered my mics and other adaptor from.
Check it out and see if you can find the one that fits yours...

ebay adaptor (https://www.ebay.com/itm/362385158550)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 24, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
For anyone looking for a lavalier mic, looks like AKG is offering certain colors of the LC82MD at only $49.99 - usually $399.

 AKG Lav Amazon  (https://smile.amazon.com/AKG-LC82MD-Microlite-Lavalier-Microphone/dp/B01LX8UMTD/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1532438448&sr=8-2&keywords=LC82MD&dpID=21LaiyaNYAL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Fruits on July 24, 2018, 09:43:34 AM
Gee Debbie, did you see that swell product on the above page, You need some razzle-dazzle in your life! The Banaok Bluetooth karaoke mic, in a bunch of spiffy colors. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 24, 2018, 10:40:04 AM
Gee Debbie, did you see that swell product on the above page, You need some razzle-dazzle in your life! The Banaok Bluetooth karaoke mic, in a bunch of spiffy colors.

I am open to razzle-dazzle....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on July 24, 2018, 03:59:25 PM
I already snagged them from one of my distributors, but thanks for the heads up. Mine were not $13. In fact, the drop shipping fee from Harman was more than that.

I'm exchanging the broken headset for a lav mic on the special today.

Tim,

I just found and ordered a reconditioned a microlite AKG/Shure adaptor for my other mic for only $13 shipped on fleabay from PSSL which is where I ordered my mics and other adaptor from.
Check it out and see if you can find the one that fits yours...

ebay adaptor (https://www.ebay.com/itm/362385158550)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 24, 2018, 08:11:28 PM
I already snagged them from one of my distributors, but thanks for the heads up. Mine were not $13. In fact, the drop shipping fee from Harman was more than that.

I'm exchanging the broken headset for a lav mic on the special today.

I wish I needed another lav but I don't and mine work fine - they are cheaper list Shures but I use them so rarely its not worth it for me. Maybe the broken EC81 was a blessing in disguise for you....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Andrew Broughton on July 25, 2018, 12:25:53 PM
This is the only one that compares but does not have the Shure connector.....(according to Pyle)
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLM31-Condenser-Microphone-Connector/dp/B00EUJF15G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527622462&sr=8-1&keywords=PLM31 (https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLM31-Condenser-Microphone-Connector/dp/B00EUJF15G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527622462&sr=8-1&keywords=PLM31)
Have you tried the PLMS-40?
http://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PLMS40/Cardioid-Headset-Microphone,-Flexible-Wired-Boom-(4-Pin-Mini-XLR-Connector-Jack)-for-Shure-Mic-Systems (http://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PLMS40/Cardioid-Headset-Microphone,-Flexible-Wired-Boom-(4-Pin-Mini-XLR-Connector-Jack)-for-Shure-Mic-Systems)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on July 25, 2018, 02:13:31 PM
Have you tried the PLMS-40?
http://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PLMS40/Cardioid-Headset-Microphone,-Flexible-Wired-Boom-(4-Pin-Mini-XLR-Connector-Jack)-for-Shure-Mic-Systems (http://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PLMS40/Cardioid-Headset-Microphone,-Flexible-Wired-Boom-(4-Pin-Mini-XLR-Connector-Jack)-for-Shure-Mic-Systems)

Thanks Andrew....Definitely something I would have considered before I came across the AKG.  I might have missed this one - it certainly wasn't suggested as an option by Pyle when I contacted them.
It doesn't seem to be stocked in all the usual places. Even though it still shows on the Pyle website, everywhere else it shows as 'no longer available'. I think Pyle are replacing a lot of their models and this could be one of them.
I am happy I got the AKG though - for the money the quality is excellent.
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: John Ferreira on July 29, 2018, 08:46:54 AM
AKG mic{/url]
 (https://smile.amazon.com/AKG-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Microphone/dp/B01LXWCV45/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532380224&sr=8-1&keywords=akg+EC81md)

Thanks Debbie.
“Item does not ship to Canada” - I have never seen so many items not being shipped to Canada, like lately at Amazon.
Frustrating.



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Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on August 08, 2018, 12:30:31 PM
I tried out one of my new mics this past weekend.  I like it!!!.
The sound quality was noticed by the band members - they had a better chance of really hearing the quaity through their iems than I did through FOH. Chris said it was clear and warm.
I had a couple of high pitched whistles that I sometimes get due to where I position myself in front of the speakers but nothing worth worrying about.

The ear hook was my main problem- which I knew would be the case. I prefer a headphone type headset that goes over or behind my head - easy to put on, keep in place, to position and for removal.  I kept getting the earpiece caught in my hair and earings and I found myself fiddling with it too much. I finally got the knack of how to keep it in place though by moving the earpiece along the boom and twisting things around a bit.
I also had to bend in the boom quite a bit to get close to my mouth. It is VERY good at rejecting audience noise which of course is fantastic for my needs but it also means that I have to get the capsule within a cm of my mouth or it hardly picks up.
For $49 (plus AKG to Shure adaptor) this was easily one of my best buys yet. I finally have a quality headset mic for myself which is a good feeling.
I use the best quality gear I can afford in PA, yet I have been limping along with 'OK' mics. Now I really feel part of the band as well as crew.....
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Tim Hite on August 14, 2018, 02:22:28 AM
So. . .I sent one of these earset mics down to a client along with some Lectro IEMs he needed to borrow and he used it on a shoot and loves it. Says it's great for boom op and for use through a PA. This is a guy who owns stacks of DPA and Sanken and such and uses them daily.

We're both buying a few more.



AKG mic{/url]
 (https://smile.amazon.com/AKG-Microlite-Earhook-Headset-Microphone/dp/B01LXWCV45/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532380224&sr=8-1&keywords=akg+EC81md)
Title: Re: Suggestions for a secondary mic headset.
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on August 14, 2018, 08:37:41 AM
So. . .I sent one of these earset mics down to a client along with some Lectro IEMs he needed to borrow and he used it on a shoot and loves it. Says it's great for boom op and for use through a PA. This is a guy who owns stacks of DPA and Sanken and such and uses them daily.

We're both buying a few more.

I am not surprised... I've used mine 3 times now and it sounds so good. I recorded the last show so I was able to isolate my voice and really analyze the quality. Loving it.