lorenjones wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 05:05 |
So our pastor just told me the church has decided to invest in a musician mix their own monitoring system. Currently we mix for the band (everyone on headphones) from a dedicated Soundcraft SM20 monitor desk. Can anyone here compare the MyMix system vs Aviom? |
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I am currently favoring the MyMix as it will be quite a bit cheaper to configure a system that will carry all 48 channels to match the frame size of our mixing desk. |
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A related question regarding IEM's. Currently our band members use cheap (read iPod earbuds and other garbage earphones) as "IEM's". I would like to include the purchase of some decent universal fit IEM's to go with our new monitor mixing system. I have been looking at Westone UM1 or Etymotic ER6i. Any opinions on these? Suggestions for other good universal fit entry level IEM's? I think durability, secure fit and easy availability of affordable replacement foam or silicone tips will be more important than absolute sound quality. |
Lee Buckalew wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 14:14 |
I canot speak to MyMix having not used it but it does create the same issue that Aviom has and that is, all musicians must be sent the same sets of feeds even if they don't need them. |
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Lee Buckalew wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 14:14 I canot speak to MyMix having not used it but it does create the same issue that Aviom has and that is, all musicians must be sent the same sets of feeds even if they don't need them. Arnold Krueger wrote: Doesn't that come with the territory if you run all the remotes over the same CAT5 media? |
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We've had Aviom for about 6 months, and I can read spec sheets. My first 2 concerns are: (1) The controller seems to require thrashing through menus to get common operations completed. Learhing curve? (2) No digital interface with digital consoles. To give the devil its due, the Backbeat hardware looks like its about 10 years of development down the road from our Aviom system in just about every way. I chafe at the costs and limitations of the Aviom concentrators. |
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IOW you want it to also be a digital snake? |
lorenjones wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 20:15 |
Lee, The Roland system would be much more flexible I am sure. It looks like that would easily run us around $20,000 or more for a system with 10 mix positions. I think a MyMix system of the same general proportions would be around $10,000 probably. We'll know more once we put hands on the MyMix install at a local church and talk through it with the local dealer (he also carries Aviom and Roland BTW). Take care, Loren Jones |
Lee Buckalew wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 14:27 |
Kent, If you are referring to me, I am not a dealer for anything. My company provides design, consultation and training. At times we also provide brokerage services. As far as interfacing goes, the Roland does not require "A bunch of extra equipment", it can interface to any MADI interface via the S-MADI interface. The I Live T can utilize the M-MADI as an output card. AVIOM ca not take any connection type except A-Net. They do make their own A to D converters to get into the A-Net format or you can utilize an A-Net card as an output from various digital mixers. Perhaps this would also be "A bunch of extra equipment". I do not know enough about MyMix to comment. I did not see any notes about a direct digital input capability, only analogue. His, Lee Buckalew Pro Sound Advice, Inc. |
lorenjones wrote on Sun, 23 January 2011 07:05 |
I had thought that you could connect several together in daisy chain fashion to form a system without them having to be connected to an ethernet switch but apparently that isn't the case. |
lorenjones wrote on Sun, 23 January 2011 07:05 |
Also an advantage is the ability to use more than 8 MyMix stations on the network (as many as you want) which is also an advantage over Aviom. |
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I take it that the system uses a POE switch? Or does each mixer need a wall-wart? |
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How is this an advantage? As far as I know, there is not a limitation to the number of Aviom Mixers in a system. (I'm not questioning the beauty of having assignable inputs on the mixers) |
lorenjones wrote on Sun, 23 January 2011 21:55 |
It may be my misunderstanding of an Aviom system. I thought they could only do 8 mixers per network but that may be just 8 mixers per A16D distributor and you can use multiple distributors if you want more mixers on the network. |
lorenjones wrote on Sun, 23 January 2011 21:55 |
It just seems like the ability to select from more than 16 channels to make the mix each person wants is nice, although I guess most of the time each person will want most of the same inputs included in their mix. |
John M Gibby wrote on Mon, 24 January 2011 08:40 |
What is the setup like for the MyMix stations. Does each station have to go through the list of possible inputs and pare it down to 16? For a fixed installation I can see that this is a mostly one time setup per station. However, I think it gives the user the ability to screw up their mix. It seems that a lot of amateur musicians think they need everything in their mix and want a mix that is like the house mix. Those that know what they are doing will ask for only what they need in their mix. While the MyMix does seem intriguing to me, I'm still in the Roland M-48 camp. Plus, I still don't like the big LCD screens on onstage equipment in a setting where going to black is a requirement at times. The proliferation of onstage LEDs and lights drives me crazy and detracts from the mood of the performance. I know people are becoming more accustomed to it, but I still think that LCDs will even more distracting that little LED lights. The Roland has a better set of features in my book. And the system operator can set up each station by copying another station setup. Additionally, they can pool inputs on one station group. The only thing the MyMix has that the M-48 doesn't is the recording to SD Card, but they do have a record out. Regardless, competition is GOOD! |