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One of the come-ons in the latest Internet service offer:
"Self-installation available at no extra charge."
Golly!!!
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There have been times when I would have gladly paid for self-installation.
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There have been times when I would have gladly paid for self-installation.
Me 3.
There are times my back looks at the truck, and says "No Thanks", while my bank book says "Let's get 'er done"
We ain't 20-something no more.
Chris.
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"Free straw, with drink purchase"
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"Free straw, with drink purchase"
"Free drink, with purchase of any straw" ;)
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"Done while-u-wait."
Tattoo Charlies, Louisville KY
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One of the come-ons in the latest Internet service offer:
"Self-installation available at no extra charge."
Golly!!!
As a contractor, I learned not to discount for client's helping. As crazy as this sounds-its probably takes less time to do an install than to provide tech support for the average customer. How they know you are above average?
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How they know you are above average?
When you call in and they ask you what you see on your computer screen, and you say, "It's black with a blinking curser that says justice@VoodooChild $ "
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When you call in and they ask you what you see on your computer screen, and you say, "It's black with a blinking curser that says justice@VoodooChild $ "
You mean like this:
[root@localhost ~]# ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 4e:80:98:ac:69:01 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 10.39.28.252/24 brd 10.39.28.255 scope global eth1
inet6 fe80::4c80:98ff:feac:6901/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 00:1d:72:ac:21:01 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.2.252/24 brd 255.255.255.255 scope global eth0
inet6 fe80::21d:72ff:feac:2101/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[root@localhost ~]# ip r
192.168.2.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.2.252
10.39.28.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 10.39.28.252
192.168.11.0/24 via 10.39.28.254 dev eth1
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth1 scope link metric 1002
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1003
default via 192.168.2.1 dev eth0
[root@localhost ~]#
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You mean like this:
[root@localhost ~]# ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 4e:80:98:ac:69:01 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 10.39.28.252/24 brd 10.39.28.255 scope global eth1
inet6 fe80::4c80:98ff:feac:6901/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 00:1d:72:ac:21:01 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.2.252/24 brd 255.255.255.255 scope global eth0
inet6 fe80::21d:72ff:feac:2101/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[root@localhost ~]# ip r
192.168.2.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.2.252
10.39.28.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 10.39.28.252
192.168.11.0/24 via 10.39.28.254 dev eth1
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth1 scope link metric 1002
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1003
default via 192.168.2.1 dev eth0
[root@localhost ~]#
Not using sudo from a non-root account? :)
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Not using sudo from a non-root account? :)
Home phone system, was closest machine.
Here is this better, x509 revocable key login....
Using username "sholtzman".
Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key"
Passphrase for key "imported-openssh-key":
Last login: Wed Aug 2 12:28:12 2017 from 10.200.0.8
[sholtzman@panopticon ~]$
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When you call in and they ask you what you see on your computer screen, and you say, "It's black with a blinking curser that says justice@VoodooChild $ "
I just 'love' talking to Cox, who has decimated their customer service operation. Since most of my issues are technical and not account related, I have to get escalated a couple of times until I reach a human with actual tech chops, often at the local NOC.
I've discovered that talking 'nix to first tier support gets you transferred up stream faster than screaming at them - I guess they're used to that.
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I was having problems with my Cox internet dropping. Replaced the Cox provided referb modem twice. Finally phone person thought the numbers did not look good so sent a tech.
This kid showed up. His truck was some other vendor sub contracted about 3 deep, no Cox logo at all. Never pulled out any kind of meter. He replaced all the ends between the corroded tap in the street and my modem, my modem, and the network cable. Also moved the modem PSU from the brand new, nice and tight, outlet to a power strip. Finally pronounces the problem as the patch cord between the modem and my router or the power outlet being loose! His explanation was that he had seen that before.
Keep in mind the modem never lost power or communications with the router, other than intended reboots. He was using it's diagnostic page for his signal measurements! Oh yeah, when he was done one of his coworkers showed up and they were talking a out some distribution piece that had failed in the area.
I gave a REALLY BAD review when they called for a post support review.
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One of the come-ons in the latest Internet service offer:
"Self-installation available at no extra charge."
Golly!!!
Self installation with a 35.00 connection fee.
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Self installation with a 35.00 connection fee.
In all fairness $35.00 to cross connect your pair with the DSLAM is not unreasonable.
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In all fairness $35.00 to cross connect your pair with the DSLAM is not unreasonable.
DSLAM; Digital Subscriber Line Access Manager.
Ooh! Ooh!! It ALWAYS thrills me when you use an ACRONYM I understand!!!
Toodleoo!
Ron Hebbard.
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DSLAM; Digital Subscriber Line Access Manager.
Ooh! Ooh!! It ALWAYS thrills me when you use an ACRONYM I understand!!!
Toodleoo!
Ron Hebbard.
Yep but it's Access Multiplexer DSL uses low pass filters to remove the high frequency data information. DSL copper pairs have to be conditioned and cleared of all coils and taps for increased frequency response. DSL uses a MODEM (Modulator Demodulator) and is an analog format by definition. This is why the you have to use filters on the lines.
It is surprising that DSL has survived, it is a very primitive system, easily impaired by line quality. Ethernet Local Loop technology, like AT&T U-Verse uses to deploy video/voice and data on a copper pair is not DSL in the traditional sense.
DSL = Digital Subscriber Line
Larger Central Offices have a lot of copper terminated on panels that can be almost a century old. These offices were very difficult to add the IP-POP/data overlay.
Here is a picture of a large market frame to give you some idea of scale.
BTW I love the history of the Bell System.
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When you say large market... how big you talking about? Just curious.
We recently had some major street renovations on one of our downtown historic streets... a number of utility issues we're discovered, including the terra cotta duct banks that att had feeding half of town, only being about 12" underground. Despite a lot of marking, they were hit by construction at least 4 times. Watching guys splice and repair 2000 pair copper (I think that's what they said) for a week each time....
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When you say large market... how big you talking about? Just curious.
We recently had some major street renovations on one of our downtown historic streets... a number of utility issues we're discovered, including the terra cotta duct banks that att had feeding half of town, only being about 12" underground. Despite a lot of marking, they were hit by construction at least 4 times. Watching guys splice and repair 2000 pair copper (I think that's what they said) for a week each time....
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That PIC could be any mid tear market Clevelend , Indy, JAX. Atlanta, Chicago, LA top tier markets all have incredible histories. In the day 140 West St. in Manhattan was amazing. It's been almost 20 years since I have been in an active office.
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That PIC could be any mid tear market Clevelend , Indy, JAX. Atlanta, Chicago, LA top tier markets all have incredible histories. In the day 140 West St. in Manhattan was amazing. It's been almost 20 years since I have been in an active office.
This is the frieze above the door of the old Pacific Telephone & Telegraph building in Longview, Washington. The building is no longer used by the phone company (now CenturyLink) and is a private residence.
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BTW I love the history of the Bell System.
I'm on board with that. Seen this?
Step-By-Step switch 1951, youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZePwin92cI)
Gene
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Is that at an aluminum ladder?
There is a functioning step by step switch on display at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. Small but interesting history of the Bell System- as long as you are ok with seeing stuff you once bought or used as " state of the art " in a museum display.
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I'm on board with that. Seen this?
Step-By-Step switch 1951, youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZePwin92cI)
Gene
Golly!!!
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... as long as you are ok with seeing stuff you once bought or used as " state of the art " in a museum display.
Story of my life, you should see my home A/V system, most everything is from the '70s. An exception would be the CRT projector that is much newer, from the mid '80s.
Hey, it's old, I'm old, perfect fit.
Gene
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Is that at an aluminum ladder?
There is a functioning step by step switch on display at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. Small but interesting history of the Bell System- as long as you are ok with seeing stuff you once bought or used as " state of the art " in a museum display.
Late response, did get a few glimpses of the thread while on road.
I love the history of the Bell Systems and Bell Labs. Been to Murray Hill and Whippany professionally a few times in my career. Never got to meet Claude Shannon.
Anyway, worked on many Pioneer displays and events. If you have a chance to visit a Pioneer museum (Telephone Pioneers of America) it's very interesting. On my bucket list is one in Maine and two in GA.
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Working right now at my "Day Job", 1:30 am, ha! Moving TDM T1 & DS0 circuits off of Sprint network to other carriers as Sprint is dropping all TDM services. Most of my work revolves around SS7, a communications protocol for telecommunications. It's slowly going away, but the people up high already think it's done with, putting my 20 year tenure in jeopardy. One of my former coworkers spent 46 years total with GTE and the later incarnations. It was pretty cool hearing how they first developed and perfected things like caller ID, call waiting, toll free, etc... It's an amazing infrastructure that will be going away, along with the stability that was designed into it.
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Working right now at my "Day Job", 1:30 am, ha! Moving TDM T1 & DS0 circuits off of Sprint network to other carriers as Sprint is dropping all TDM services. Most of my work revolves around SS7, a communications protocol for telecommunications. It's slowly going away, but the people up high already think it's done with, putting my 20 year tenure in jeopardy. One of my former coworkers spent 46 years total with GTE and the later incarnations. It was pretty cool hearing how they first developed and perfected things like caller ID, call waiting, toll free, etc... It's an amazing infrastructure that will be going away, along with the stability that was designed into it.
Tampa Sweetwater office was my very first job in the telephone business. I was an intern with GTE and had a knack for data so ended up doing prescription data provisioning on 110 cards for analog data circuits and D4 DDS sub rate configuration for digital lines. Our office was getting the first GTD-5 in Florida and I soaked it all up.
Switched to the non-wireline world with paging and happened to be at the carrier that won the A-Block grant for Tampa. 10 cells, we wondered how we would ever sell enough capacity. Hooked up those v.35 connections to the F-Links into the end office. It would be a few years before we got A-Links into an STP. I love SS-7 and the wireless extensions using TCAP. I also did early IS-41 mobility management (all over TCAP) for IS-95 CDMA networks when PCS was in it's infancy.
The company that purchased my VoIP carrier last year, Sangoma, whom I work for now has an SS-7 stack for VoIP gateways. They can't kill us off yet though think if you take a look at SIP and packet switched voice system you would make an easy transition. Plenty of jobs for NOC guys at Envoy/Bandwidth.com/L3 PM if you ever want to chat.
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Tampa Sweetwater office was my very first job in the telephone business. I was an intern with GTE and had a knack for data so ended up doing prescription data provisioning on 110 cards for analog data circuits and D4 DDS sub rate configuration for digital lines. Our office was getting the first GTD-5 in Florida and I soaked it all up.
Switched to the non-wireline world with paging and happened to be at the carrier that won the A-Block grant for Tampa. 10 cells, we wondered how we would ever sell enough capacity. Hooked up those v.35 connections to the F-Links into the end office. It would be a few years before we got A-Links into an STP. I love SS-7 and the wireless extensions using TCAP. I also did early IS-41 mobility management (all over TCAP) for IS-95 CDMA networks when PCS was in it's infancy.
The company that purchased my VoIP carrier last year, Sangoma, whom I work for now has an SS-7 stack for VoIP gateways. They can't kill us off yet though think if you take a look at SIP and packet switched voice system you would make an easy transition. Plenty of jobs for NOC guys at Envoy/Bandwidth.com/L3 PM if you ever want to chat.
Thanks, good to know. I'm based out of the Tampa Bay area, we probably know some common telephony people from back then. I build all the TDM SS7 links and some of the Sigtran as well. I had also put in around 8-9 years of NOC work as well.
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The company that purchased my VoIP carrier last year, Sangoma, whom I work for now has an SS-7 stack for VoIP gateways. They can't kill us off yet though think if you take a look at SIP and packet switched voice system you would make an easy transition. Plenty of jobs for NOC guys at Envoy/Bandwidth.com/L3 PM if you ever want to chat.
I find it interesting that in the early days of digital communications, digital data communication rode on top of analog voice networks.
Now, it's largely flipped: analog voice communication now rides on top of digital data networks. Gone are the days where you had a copper to copper connection between you and Albuquerque.
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I find it interesting that in the early days of digital communications, digital data communication rode on top of analog voice networks.
Now, it's largely flipped: analog voice communication now rides on top of digital data networks. Gone are the days where you had a copper to copper connection between you and Albuquerque.
Long haul Coax (DS3 and higher) carrier systems were on there way out in the late 70's. These were digital links. Digital radio was also still around for some long haul paths. I have only seen a few analog sideband microwaves that used frequency division multiplexing on the baseband carrier.
It was a cool time. Predivesture, network still built and ruled by Bellcore. Then Judge Harold H. Greene changed everything. Politics of the phone system is still politics so I will stop there.