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Title: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 02, 2017, 04:13:15 pm
I'm looking for anyone who was on the 1973 leg of the Dark Side of the Moon Tour. I'm trying to verify if the Band stopped at the Antietam Battlefield on March 21, 1973 in Sharpsburg, MD for any reason at all. I live a few miles from Sharpsburg and don't remember any concert taking place there. In fact, I've done sound for the Maryland Symphony Orchestra in the battlefield many times on the 4th of July, and we have to bring in EVERYTHING including a portable stage, roof, power, sanitation, etc... I suspect their tour bus might have just stopped there for a break and someone included it as a tour stop. Here's the Widipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Moon_Tour

So do any of you know anyone who was on that tour?
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Rick Powell on April 10, 2017, 12:06:57 am
I'm looking for anyone who was on the 1973 leg of the Dark Side of the Moon Tour. I'm trying to verify if the Band stopped at the Antietam Battlefield on March 21, 1973 in Sharpsburg, MD for any reason at all. I live a few miles from Sharpsburg and don't remember any concert taking place there. In fact, I've done sound for the Maryland Symphony Orchestra in the battlefield many times on the 4th of July, and we have to bring in EVERYTHING including a portable stage, roof, power, sanitation, etc... I suspect their tour bus might have just stopped there for a break and someone included it as a tour stop. Here's the Widipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Moon_Tour

So do any of you know anyone who was on that tour?

http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/pink-floyd-13d6adc5.html?page=49

Setlist FM doesn't have this date on the tour, and yet has a detailed setlist for the bookends around this date. You may be correct, or it was some impromptu acoustic jam or something between gigs.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 10, 2017, 07:06:05 am
http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/pink-floyd-13d6adc5.html?page=49

Setlist FM doesn't have this date on the tour, and yet has a detailed setlist for the bookends around this date. You may be correct, or it was some impromptu acoustic jam or something between gigs.

One of my musicians buddies says that Roger Waters is an American History buff and especially interested in the Civil War period. So maybe the tour bus stopped off the visit the Antietam Battlefield which is a big tourist stop. But why would the date and place make it onto their tour schedule. The mystery continues.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Rick Earl on April 10, 2017, 02:22:33 pm
One of my musicians buddies says that Roger Waters is an American History buff and especially interested in the Civil War period. So maybe the tour bus stopped off the visit the Antietam Battlefield which is a big tourist stop. But why would the date and place make it onto their tour schedule. The mystery continues.

Unless they got the tour schedule from the band/crew one tour books - When I was on tour, our books also had listings for non-performance stops if they were significant, I remember a DC stop in between a Baltimore and Richmond date specifically being in our book so we could make plans.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 10, 2017, 04:40:59 pm
Unless they got the tour schedule from the band/crew one tour books - When I was on tour, our books also had listings for non-performance stops if they were significant, I remember a DC stop in between a Baltimore and Richmond date specifically being in our book so we could make plans.

That's sort of what we're thinking. My guitar player and I have floated the idea of having a DSOTM party in Surround Sound at Antietam Battlefield next March 21st. Sort of a reunion tour for the gig that didn't happen. I have all the gear and could easily do it, but of course we'll need permission from the Antietam Battlefield management. There's a ton of room out there... when I do the July 4th show with the Maryland Symphony Orchestra we typically get between 25 to 30 thousand attending. Hey, if we got a few dozen of our hard-core friends to help set this up and listen that would be great. I'll even play the tour set list with Echoes, etc... Now if can only get some lasers for a light show.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Joseph D. Macry on April 11, 2017, 11:38:58 am
One of my musicians buddies says that Roger Waters is an American History buff and especially interested in the Civil War period. So maybe the tour bus stopped off the visit the Antietam Battlefield which is a big tourist stop. But why would the date and place make it onto their tour schedule. The mystery continues.

"Forward! he cried from the rear, and the front rank died..."
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: brian maddox on April 11, 2017, 01:14:42 pm
That's sort of what we're thinking. My guitar player and I have floated the idea of having a DSOTM party in Surround Sound at Antietam Battlefield next March 21st. Sort of a reunion tour for the gig that didn't happen. I have all the gear and could easily do it, but of course we'll need permission from the Antietam Battlefield management. There's a ton of room out there... when I do the July 4th show with the Maryland Symphony Orchestra we typically get between 25 to 30 thousand attending. Hey, if we got a few dozen of our hard-core friends to help set this up and listen that would be great. I'll even play the tour set list with Echoes, etc... Now if can only get some lasers for a light show.

I'm in.  :)
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on April 11, 2017, 05:41:06 pm
I'm in.  :)


Yeah me too - The frontman for a great Floyd Tribute band is a good friend of mine:


http://www.floydtribute.com/


They are running the entire Animals in celebration of the 40th anniversary.  It's a great show this year.



Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 11, 2017, 10:22:30 pm

Yeah me too - The frontman for a great Floyd Tribute band is a good friend of mine:


http://www.floydtribute.com/


They are running the entire Animals in celebration of the 40th anniversary.  It's a great show this year.

What would it cost to get them out to the Antietam Battlefield next March 21st? And forward me their production rider, please.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on April 11, 2017, 11:45:54 pm
What would it cost to get them out to the Antietam Battlefield next March 21st? And forward me their production rider, please.


Already reached out to Eroc and asked him how he wants to engage.  This would be amazing, I would not miss and be honored to work the show in any capacity.

Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: William Schnake on April 12, 2017, 07:41:38 am
I'll even play the tour set list with Echoes, etc... Now if can only get some lasers for a light show.

Ok, but no line-array.  If you are doing an old school show you have to use old school boxes.  Either EAW or Meyer.

Bill
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Riley Casey on April 12, 2017, 09:16:30 am
1973?  Uhhhh no, you're talking Martin boxes in the UK and Altec A4s maybe JBL4560s with 2350 horns in the US.

Ok, but no line-array.  If you are doing an old school show you have to use old school boxes.  Either EAW or Meyer.

Bill
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 12, 2017, 10:26:33 am
1973?  Uhhhh no, you're talking Martin boxes in the UK and Altec A4s maybe JBL4560s with 2350 horns in the US.

I'll have to check with MHA Audio in town. I think they still have 40 or so of their original Tannoy M6 cabinets that were used for AC-DC and the B52's for years. They're heavy as all get out (400+ lbs per cabinet) but they actually sound pretty good. I'll see if I can scare up a picture.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 12, 2017, 12:49:42 pm
I've just confirmed there's a pile (40+) of the original Malcolm Hill M6/Tannoy/RH Cabinets right in Hagerstown, all operational and setup with NL8 Speakon connectors. Their shop guy Bruce said he would like to see 4 boxes per corner, so that's 16 cabinets total. You know I'm mixing this in quad, right? If I ask the shop owner nicely I can probably get it all for free. Of course, we have to lift everything (Ugh).

And if you wanted to go all-in with this, I can probably find a Yamaha PM4000 to mix on. Again, heavy as all crap (1,000 lbs in the case IIRC) but that's "old school" baby.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: TrevorMilburn on April 12, 2017, 12:50:13 pm
I'll have to check with MHA Audio in town. I think they still have 40 or so of their original Tannoy M6 cabinets that were used for AC-DC and the B52's for years. They're heavy as all get out (400+ lbs per cabinet) but they actually sound pretty good. I'll see if I can scare up a picture.
M6? Never seen that before!
Here is a pic of the Hill M4 cabs (As used at Live Aid).(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/Jazomir/Speakers/HillM4_07speaker.jpg)
and one here of the Hill M3 in use by Saxon:
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/Jazomir/Speakers/HillM3SaxonBrighton.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 12, 2017, 12:59:18 pm
M6? Never seen that before!

I've used them for years on the Maryland Symphony at the Antietam Battlefield, so they would be right at home there. Gotta bring in a big genny to power them, but I know a guy....
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Matthew Knischewsky on April 12, 2017, 01:57:47 pm
I've just confirmed there's a pile (40+) of the original Malcolm Hill M6/Tannoy/RH Cabinets right in Hagerstown, all operational and setup with NL8 Speakon connectors. Their shop guy Bruce said he would like to see 4 boxes per corner, so that's 16 cabinets total. You know I'm mixing this in quad, right? If I ask the shop owner nicely I can probably get it all for free. Of course, we have to lift everything (Ugh).

And if you wanted to go all-in with this, I can probably find a Yamaha PM4000 to mix on. Again, heavy as all crap (1,000 lbs in the case IIRC) but that's "old school" baby.

If you want to keep it all Hill I'll bring a Concept console for FOH and a Datum monitor console with 12 mixes of TX1000 amplifiers and wedges.

 Though a closer period console would be the Midas PR03 I've been working on.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 12, 2017, 02:06:47 pm
If you want to keep it all Hill I'll bring a Concept console for FOH and a Datum monitor console with 12 mixes of TX1000 amplifiers and wedges.

 Though a closer period console would be the Midas PR03 I've been working on.

Aren't you in Canada? Would you drive it to this event?
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Matthew Knischewsky on April 12, 2017, 02:39:35 pm
Aren't you in Canada? Would you drive it to this event?

Getting across the border could be a little interesting. But it's been done before. Could be a fun road trip!

Haha maybe bringing an entire monitor rig would be overkill :) But a console would be more realistic.

Every time I think everyone else must have finally scrapped the Hill gear someone makes a post like yours, that there's a pile of it ready to go out gigging. It's a love/hate relationship I have with it.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 12, 2017, 03:31:25 pm
Getting across the border could be a little interesting. But it's been done before. Could be a fun road trip!

Haha maybe bringing an entire monitor rig would be overkill :) But a console would be more realistic.

Every time I think everyone else must have finally scrapped the Hill gear someone makes a post like yours, that there's a pile of it ready to go out gigging. It's a love/hate relationship I have with it.

The warehouse with all this Hill gear is a 15 minute drive from my shop and I've worked for the owner Mike Scarfe for the last 25 years or so. And the Antietam Battlefield is only a 20 minute drive from my shop. So if you REALLY NEEDED them there tomorrow morning and had a budget, I could make it happen.  ;)

But I'm being realistic and can probably get permission for use of the field, and maybe a sponsor or two pay incidental costs like the genny and a few hotel rooms for the out-of-town folks. I can bring old-school speakers and amps and mixers and mics. I just need to know what the PF cover band would need to play through, etc...
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on April 12, 2017, 04:46:56 pm
The warehouse with all this Hill gear is a 15 minute drive from my shop and I've worked for the owner Mike Scarfe for the last 25 years or so. And the Antietam Battlefield is only a 20 minute drive from my shop. So if you REALLY NEEDED them there tomorrow morning and had a budget, I could make it happen.  ;)

But I'm being realistic and can probably get permission for use of the field, and maybe a sponsor or two pay incidental costs like the genny and a few hotel rooms for the out-of-town folks. I can bring old-school speakers and amps and mixers and mics. I just need to know what the PF cover band would need to play through, etc...


I would bring a motor home to stay in could sleep 6 comfortably.  Also have access to a bunk house toy hauler that would sleep another 8. 



Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: brian maddox on April 12, 2017, 08:56:12 pm

I would bring a motor home to stay in could sleep 6 comfortably.  Also have access to a bunk house toy hauler that would sleep another 8.

Okay this really is getting real.  😀

I'm local, so barring me being out of town I'll be all over this.

And doesn't Scarfe still have his XL4?  At least that'd be from the right side of the pond.

All these sound guys in one place. Gonna be fighting over faders.... 
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 12, 2017, 10:38:12 pm
Okay this really is getting real.  😀

I'm local, so barring me being out of town I'll be all over this.

And doesn't Scarfe still have his XL4?  At least that'd be from the right side of the pond.

All these sound guys in one place. Gonna be fighting over faders....

First I need to contact the Park Service to see what sort of application needs to be made for usage of the property. And since Mike Scarfe has done the sound at the Antietam Battlefield for the MSO on July 4th over the last 25 years or so, I should be able to find the right person to talk to.

And I really do want to mix this in quad. Hey, I was on a discussion panel with Alan Parsons years ago discussing his quad mix of DSOTM. I would really dig sitting in the middle of the battlefield with speaker stacks on all four corners.

Does anyone have a laser light show to bring to the party?
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on April 12, 2017, 10:59:13 pm
First I need to contact the Park Service to see what sort of application needs to be made for usage of the property. And since Mike Scarfe has done the sound at the Antietam Battlefield for the MSO on July 4th over the last 25 years or so, I should be able to find the right person to talk to.

And I really do want to mix this in quad. Hey, I was on a discussion panel with Alan Parsons years ago discussing his quad mix of DSOTM. I would really dig sitting in the middle of the battlefield with speaker stacks on all four corners.

Does anyone have a laser light show to bring to the party?


The keyboard player for WYWH still travels with a real Moog.  I don't know enough what model but it has hard patches.


They take a few modern conveniences, the clocks on Time are sampled but the congos are done live.  They are at the HOB on 3/29 you should make the drive to Cleveland and join me, I could introduce you to the guys.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 13, 2017, 10:12:48 am
They take a few modern conveniences, the clocks on Time are sampled but the congos are done live.  They are at the HOB on 3/29 you should make the drive to Cleveland and join me, I could introduce you to the guys.

I'll be in Paris, France that week, so that's too long of a drive back. ;)  But we should discuss this soon on the phone.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Riley Casey on April 13, 2017, 11:34:50 am
Snort!  Old school, I got your old school baby. 

... I can probably find a Yamaha PM4000 to mix on. Again, heavy as all crap (1,000 lbs in the case IIRC) but that's "old school" baby.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 13, 2017, 11:36:13 am
So according to my guitar player Karl, here is the route their tour bus would have taken for this leg of the tour. All completely doable.

Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 13, 2017, 11:37:27 am
Snort!  Old school, I got your old school baby.

That's some heavy metal...
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: DavidTurner on April 15, 2017, 02:04:19 pm
Snort!  Old school, I got your old school baby.

WOW PM2000! Haven't seen one in decades!


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Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on April 15, 2017, 03:29:36 pm
WOW PM2000! Haven't seen one in decades!


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Just looking at it makes me want to mix.

Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Joseph D. Macry on April 17, 2017, 11:18:12 am
They take a few modern conveniences, the clocks on Time are sampled but the congos are done live. 

Just to be pedantic: The real PF used two banks of Roto-Toms (with lighted drumsticks!), not congas, during the intro to "Time".
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 17, 2017, 12:35:16 pm
Just to be pedantic: The real PF used two banks of Roto-Toms (with lighted drumsticks!), not congas, during the intro to "Time".

Do I need to contact Remo to see if I can get a set of RotoToms?  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 17, 2017, 12:42:45 pm
Just to be pedantic: The real PF used two banks of Roto-Toms (with lighted drumsticks!), not congas, during the intro to "Time".

And these LED drumsticks change color every time you hit a drum. I want a pair of them just for myself (and I'm not a drummer). Too trippy? I'm not responsible if any of you start having flashbacks....  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 17, 2017, 12:44:50 pm
Just thinking.... I have an original Rhodes 73 piano that plays great. I think that's required for Time..
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 17, 2017, 01:19:15 pm
Do I need to contact Remo to see if I can get a set of RotoToms?  ;)

They are still in production.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Mike Sokol on April 17, 2017, 01:29:25 pm
They are still in production.

Remo marketing just contacted me back. Yippiee!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Chris Hindle on April 17, 2017, 08:54:20 pm
Do I need to contact Remo to see if I can get a set of RotoToms?  ;)

naw. I know a semi-retired "source" that won't miss them for a week or three.......
Knowing it's for Floyd doesn't hurt. May have to pay his way too.......

edit: Reading further, i see you have a source lined up.
The Don probably wouldn't let us in anyway.
Fukin hippies from the north !
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Chris.
Title: Re: Anyone on the 1973 Pink Floyd Tour?
Post by: Jean-Pierre Coetzee on May 03, 2017, 01:44:12 am
Do I need to contact Remo to see if I can get a set of RotoToms?  ;)

I'm pretty sure that I have a set, I'm a bit far though...