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This explains why rental systems are not very consistent------------------
From a cable manufacturer:
"Cables require a total of 400 to 500 hours to completely break in. If you ordered our 2 day cable break-in service, your cables will arrive with the equivalent of 96 hours on them. If you ordered the extended 5 day breakin, the equivalent of 240 hours will be on them.
The "difficult stage" of the breakin, where the cables might be hard to listen to is between 50 to 100 hours. There can be brief periods however past this point. If you have an evening where they are hard to listen to, do not fret, this will quickly go away. All should be well the next day. When full breakin is reached, there will be no more changes with the sound.
Our cables are meant to be hooked up and left alone. If you later move your cables, 1 to 2 days might be required for them to "settle" into their new positions. If you notice a change in the sound, all will return after the 1 to 2 days. Again, do not fret!
All cable products require a break-in time for the sound quality to reach the maximum potential for that product. It can be a sonic roller coaster ride during break-in."
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This explains why rental systems are not very consistent------------------
From a cable manufacturer:
"Cables require a total of 400 to 500 hours to completely break in. If you ordered our 2 day cable break-in service, your cables will arrive with the equivalent of 96 hours on them. If you ordered the extended 5 day breakin, the equivalent of 240 hours will be on them.
The "difficult stage" of the breakin, where the cables might be hard to listen to is between 50 to 100 hours. There can be brief periods however past this point. If you have an evening where they are hard to listen to, do not fret, this will quickly go away. All should be well the next day. When full breakin is reached, there will be no more changes with the sound.
Our cables are meant to be hooked up and left alone. If you later move your cables, 1 to 2 days might be required for them to "settle" into their new positions. If you notice a change in the sound, all will return after the 1 to 2 days. Again, do not fret!
All cable products require a break-in time for the sound quality to reach the maximum potential for that product. It can be a sonic roller coaster ride during break-in."
Guess that's why most shows sound like poo until the 3rd or 4th night of a 5 night run......
;D"Sonic roller coaster" indeed. ;D
Who actually writes this drivel, and worse, how can comeone believe it ?
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Guess that's why most shows sound like poo until the 3rd or 4th night of a 5 night run......
;D"Sonic roller coaster" indeed. ;D
Who actually writes this drivel, and worse, how can comeone believe it ?
Google "Russ Andrews" for plenty more giggles of this type - they don't just stop at cable, everything from mains treatment to hifi component support gets soaked with his slippery snake oil, all full of the same sort of absurd claims to justify the ridiculous prices!
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This explains why rental systems are not very consistent------------------
From a cable manufacturer:
"Cables require a total of 400 to 500 hours to completely break in.
Makes sense when they are plated with unobtainium.
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This explains why rental systems are not very consistent------------------
From a cable manufacturer:
"Cables require a total of 400 to 500 hours to completely break in. If you ordered our 2 day cable break-in service, your cables will arrive with the equivalent of 96 hours on them. If you ordered the extended 5 day breakin, the equivalent of 240 hours will be on them.
Wow! My math has been off all this time! I thought there was 48 hours in a two day period! Either that, or there's 48 hours in a day!
The "difficult stage" of the breakin, where the cables might be hard to listen to is between 50 to 100 hours.
What (cough) reputable dealer/reseller would offer a premium service (2-day breakin) that would deliver to the purchaser cable when performing at its worst? They should at least offer a three-day service minimum so the cables are past the 100 hour difficult stage (3*48 hours/day=144 hours)
Sheesh! What kind of outfit is running this?
frank
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"Cables require a total of 400 to 500 hours to completely break in. If you ordered our 2 day cable break-in service, your cables will arrive with the equivalent of 96 hours on them. If you ordered the extended 5 day breakin, the equivalent of 240 hours will be on them.
I wonder how they achieve 200% break-in time? Are they doing this in some other dimension? Do they play two different programs through the same cables at the same time (symphonic and heavy metal just to maximize the bandwidth and dynamic range)?
The "difficult stage" of the breakin, where the cables might be hard to listen to is between 50 to 100 hours.
No, the difficult stage of the break in happens about 20 days later.
When your credit card statement arrives. >:(
GTD
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Makes sense when they are plated with unobtainium.
More like Balonium.
Steve.
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Wow! My math has been off all this time! I thought there was 48 hours in a two day period! Either that, or there's 48 hours in a day!
frank
Actually you can buy special "break in boxes" that will accelerate the break in of cables-so you don't have to wait so long for your system to sound right..
They use special "tones" that "align" the electrons.
HEY---- I don't make this stuff up!!!!!!!!
With the right marketing you can sell anything-just look at the pet rock craze years ago.
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With the right marketing you can sell anything-just look at the pet rock craze years ago.
My pet rock is not crazy, stop making fun of him! ;D
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Ivan, I think you secretly take pleasure from this... It scares me for what it says about typical consumers.
JR
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I can't tell you ('cuz I haven't counted) how many iDevice sync cables I've seen "broken in." People plug them into the front of their computers (which are sitting on the floor), then massage them with the wheels of their desk chair. This gives the conductors extra pliability which allows the music to get from the iTunes app to the iPod/iPhone without undue stress that would distort the digital bits -- something you might experience with a factory-new cable that's too stiff. It's best if the outer jacket is worn to the point where the inner conductors appear; that lets the bits get through easier, kind of like how a dirt road widens around a big pothole. At some point, the cord will fray at the plug and you'll have to patch it with scotch tape. This prevents the weak bits from getting through, ensuring that you only get the strong, reliable bits into your iPod/iPhone. Use only scotch tape, not black tape, as that will allow sunlight to more effectively cure the data.
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Dear Cable Manufacturer,
I broke in my cables as recommended but to my horror just realized that they were connected in the wrong direction during the break-in. Can I turn them around and break them in for a longer period in the correct orientation or are they beyond hope?
Sincerely,
A consumer with more money then brains
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Dear Cable Manufacturer,
I broke in my cables as recommended but to my horror just realized that they were connected in the wrong direction during the break-in. Can I turn them around and break them in for a longer period in the correct orientation or are they beyond hope?
Sincerely,
A consumer with more money then brains
NOW you've done it. You have gotten the electrons ALL KINDA CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!
It will probably take a lot longer than you think to get them all lined up so they know which direction to go.
Brad-I really thought you were smarter than to hook a cable up backwards-----------
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NOW you've done it. You have gotten the electrons ALL KINDA CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!
It will probably take a lot longer than you think to get them all lined up so they know which direction to go.
Brad-I really thought you were smarter than to hook a cable up backwards-----------
It was dark, and reaching around the back of the rack he confused an innie for an outie.. ;D
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I think you're also supposed to "break-out" the cables after you've used up all their electrons. That way they can be properly disposed of without releasing harmful ions into the environment.
...kind of like how a dirt road widens around a big pothole
Where was THAT dirt road when I was growing up? ;D If anything the potholes just widened to fill the road, at which point it ceased to be a pothole and became a ditch crossing the road.
Come to think of it, I think the road was literally just one big ditch.
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How long should I break in my cables?
About an hour longer than the warranty period
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Why knock them? A third party, discount, break in service could utilize your gear when it is in the shop-let it collect money for you not dust! Why should they get all the easy money?
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This explains why rental systems are not very consistent------------------
From a cable manufacturer:
"Cables require a total of 400 to 500 hours to completely break in. If you ordered our 2 day cable break-in service, your cables will arrive with the equivalent of 96 hours on them. If you ordered the extended 5 day breakin, the equivalent of 240 hours will be on them.
The "difficult stage" of the breakin, where the cables might be hard to listen to is between 50 to 100 hours. There can be brief periods however past this point. If you have an evening where they are hard to listen to, do not fret, this will quickly go away. All should be well the next day. When full breakin is reached, there will be no more changes with the sound.
Our cables are meant to be hooked up and left alone. If you later move your cables, 1 to 2 days might be required for them to "settle" into their new positions. If you notice a change in the sound, all will return after the 1 to 2 days. Again, do not fret!
All cable products require a break-in time for the sound quality to reach the maximum potential for that product. It can be a sonic roller coaster ride during break-in."
What is even worse is the people that actually believe that stuff. Maybe that is why we like looong load ins so our cables will "settle down". I wonder if this applies to lighting cables. (sarc)
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What is even worse is the people that actually believe that stuff. Maybe that is why we like looong load ins so our cables will "settle down". I wonder if this applies to lighting cables.
[sarc]
Yes. Dimming is more predictable. Light is more flattering. Flickering completely eliminated after 100 hours. Longer bulb life.
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Corrected per JR suggestion
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Unfortunately some fraction of the many people reading this thread may not get when people are joking about this so take some some sarcastic posts literally. Especially when not accompanied by emoticons denoting humorous intent.
Just to be crystal clear this is nonsense. Cables do not need to be broken in.
JR
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Audiophools
Ya gotta love them.
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It was dark, and reaching around the back of the rack he confused an innie for an outie.. ;D
You can't tell an "Innie" from an "Outie" in the dark? ???
-Wigs
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You can't tell an "Innie" from an "Outie" in the dark? ???
-Wigs
Depends on how much you have had to drink