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Title: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Steve Litcher on August 22, 2016, 05:16:23 PM
I have to give a quick shout out to Jim from OA Windsor. I just received a shipment of boxes and wow - they really are incredibly awesome boxes!!!

Further, Jim was an absolute saint with answering my questions and steering me to the best solution for our stage box needs. He sent an invoice on Friday, we sent payment that night, and they arrived to the warehouse today. That's incredible service.

If anyone is looking for some top-notch stage power boxes, look no further. These OA boxes are unlike anything I've ever seen or used - I'm guessing they're as bomb-proof as they are functional and good looking. I can't wait to string them out on a stage, plug in the 20A PC connectors, and let 'em rip. Sooooo much better than the old power strips!

Off to do some wiring and assembly!
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on August 25, 2016, 05:04:12 PM
I have to give a quick shout out to Jim from OA Windsor. I just received a shipment of boxes and wow - they really are incredibly awesome boxes!!!

Further, Jim was an absolute saint with answering my questions and steering me to the best solution for our stage box needs. He sent an invoice on Friday, we sent payment that night, and they arrived to the warehouse today. That's incredible service.

If anyone is looking for some top-notch stage power boxes, look no further. These OA boxes are unlike anything I've ever seen or used - I'm guessing they're as bomb-proof as they are functional and good looking. I can't wait to string them out on a stage, plug in the 20A PC connectors, and let 'em rip. Sooooo much better than the old power strips!

Wow is right Steve! Thanks for the only minimally deserved praise.  I have never been called a saint before, thankfully no one can speak to my wife on the forums. I REALLY appreciate all the positive things that go on in these forums and how it helps people find my obscure business.

Again, I really appreciate your comments and the forums existence. THANKS ALL ! Sincerely,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor

Off to do some wiring and assembly!
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Kevin Maxwell on August 25, 2016, 10:47:47 PM
Wow is right Steve! Thanks for the only minimally deserved praise.  I have never been called a saint before, thankfully no one can speak to my wife on the forums. I REALLY appreciate all the positive things that go on in these forums and how it helps people find my obscure business.

Again, I really appreciate your comments and the forums existence. THANKS ALL ! Sincerely,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor

Off to do some wiring and assembly!

I found your web site and discovered that this is the OA Winsor that I thought it is. I am glad to see the company is back and now under your ownership. I am trying to convince a company I work with to update their Quad boxes and some of your other boxes look interesting. How does one find pricing? Are you planning on making a web site that one can order your products thru?
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jonathan Johnson on August 29, 2016, 12:20:40 AM
Jim, any plans to offer boxes with Decora-style covers to accommodate GFCI receptacles?
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: frank kayser on August 29, 2016, 09:42:59 AM
Jim, any plans to offer boxes with Decora-style covers to accommodate GFCI receptacles?


I do not know for sure, but i BELIEVE these will work on the OA Windsor boxes.  I used these on some Leviton 3059 rubber boxes (of course designed for them) but the OA Windsor boxes my friend has SEEM to be quite similar.  Can be mounted with either two screws (outlet and plate to box) or six (drill plate and add four corner screws).  Only solution I've found.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L5GBKHK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


frank



Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Dave Garoutte on August 29, 2016, 04:27:06 PM
I just spent some time on the phone with Jim at OA Windsor getting info on a stage setup I'm implementing.
He was super helpful, suggesting a slightly different product and giving  me prices.
They sell direct.
I mentioned the PSW forums, which he said gets him a lot of sales.
The products appear bulletproof if a bit expensive.  It's one of those buy once and never worry about it again sort of things.
I'll be placing my order this week.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Aaron Maurer on September 06, 2016, 08:39:23 PM
Really great product! I made the switch last year purchased 7 boxes and never looked back. Lots of folks comment on them that's for sure when they see them on the stage. Jim is a real nice guy as well.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Juan Gomez on October 25, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
Hello Jim, I would like to order some items from you, how do I go about it?

Juan Gomez
(951) 591-8789
[email protected]
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Ray Aberle on October 25, 2016, 05:21:57 PM
Hello Jim, I would like to order some items from you, how do I go about it?

Juan Gomez
(951) 591-8789
[email protected]
If only there was SOME way to get his email address or phone number.......

But more importantly, Welcome to the Forums, Juan! You do need to update your Display Name to reflect your Real, Full Name, per the Rules of Participation here on the ProSoundWeb. Would you mind kindly popping back into your Profile and making this update?

Thanks!

-Ray
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Tim McCulloch on October 25, 2016, 10:29:04 PM
Hello Jim, I would like to order some items from you, how do I go about it?

Juan Gomez
(951) 591-8789
[email protected]

It's in Jims signature line
Jim Spohn
OA Windsor
307-674-8228
[email protected]
30469 S. Ditmore Road
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Ray Aberle on October 26, 2016, 01:25:29 PM
Tim was not snarky like I was. :) Juan, I was tongue-in-cheek pointing out that, like Tim stated, all of Jim's contact information was in his signature line.

Thanks for updating your name and such on here as well!

-Ray
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Mike Sokol on November 09, 2016, 09:05:28 AM
An update.... I just talked to Jim the other day about making a box for True1 Powercon connectors, and he's built two of them and sent them to me to try out. I already have True1 connectors and will mock up a few to show.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Andrew Henderson on November 10, 2016, 07:06:08 AM
An update.... I just talked to Jim the other day about making a box for True1 Powercon connectors, and he's built two of them and sent them to me to try out. I already have True1 connectors and will mock up a few to show.
Man, I was just wondering whether anyone made a True1 "stringer" box. I'd love to get your feedback when you receive them.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Mike Sokol on November 10, 2016, 09:54:42 AM
Man, I was just wondering whether anyone made a True1 "stringer" box. I'd love to get your feedback when you receive them.

The prototype boxes shipped out on Monday, so I'm expecting them today. We're going to load them up tomorrow and try them out this weekend, if possible. I'll take pictures and get feedback from my crew.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Mike Sokol on November 10, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
The prototype boxes shipped out on Monday, so I'm expecting them today. We're going to load them up tomorrow and try them out this weekend, if possible. I'll take pictures and get feedback from my crew.

The postman saw the look in my eyes and gave up the package without a struggle. Jim was kind enough to send three boxes to try out which is exactly how many True1 connectors I have in stock. The OAW boxes look terrific and the fit of the True1 connectors is perfect. We'll build them up tomorrow and test fly them over the weekend.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: frank kayser on November 11, 2016, 12:55:05 PM
The postman saw the look in my eyes and gave up the package without a struggle. Jim was kind enough to send three boxes to try out which is exactly how many True1 connectors I have in stock. The OAW boxes look terrific and the fit of the True1 connectors is perfect. We'll build them up tomorrow and test fly them over the weekend.


Look cool, Mike.


Still begs the question: The connectors are incapable of fitting 12ga SOOW or 12ga SEOOW.  The 3-jaw chuck will not take the wire and jacket and still fit into the barrel of the connector.  The cap/collet is of too small diameter to pass any 12GA SOOW that I have been able to find/research.  My experience is that 14ga SOOW (just) fits with lots of effort, and the 12ga SJOOW fits similarly.  Neither of these options are highly recommended by our own forum Oracles.


I've even tried reaming out the cap/collet to no avail, and then there is still the chuck problem.  Any modification to either the cap/collet or chuck would negate the UL listing of the device methinks.


One thing I noticed when converting the euro power cables QSC supplies with their speakers to a 5-15p, their cable is constructed without any fiber (fibre?) fillers?  If the US 12ga SOOW were constructed without the filer (or minimal filler) maybe that would work.  Is ther such a US aminal?


It was obvious to me that Neutrik did not consider the needs of the US market when they produced this series of connectors.  Too bad, they seem a step up from the blue/white Powercons.


Second, separate subject. (and a request once I finish babbling on...)
I started making up my Power drops right around the time Ken passed. During that time, OA Windsor was not an option.


I used the Leviton boxes:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XDSEOK/ref=pd_sim_60_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KY2HAMAMMAYHJ8DFP7Q8


The 2-E boxes with the larger collet for my 10ga SEOOW cords, and the 1-E boxes for 12 ga.
I outfitted them with GFCI 5-20R outlets, one each side, wired in parallel with no pass through.


The cover plate I used are also from Leviton:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L5GBKHK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


One can use these in either a 2-screw attachment, or six screw attachment.  They work very well.


I asked Jim at OA Windsor whether these plates were compatible with his boxes, and offered to test-fit on a sample box, to which I got no response.  No problem. Lots to do to pick up a business.


So my question to you, Mike (or anyone else who wants to experiment) - can you see if these coverplates are workable on the OA Windsor boxes?  I know some folks here on this forum are interested in GFCI devices in rubber boxes - and that is one product OA Windsor has not been able to supply so far (in my experience, which is about a year old, now)


frank
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Tim Padrick on November 11, 2016, 02:15:32 PM
I don't know about the new Powercons, but I believe that 12-3SO will fit into the old ones if you grind the flare off of the chuck (10-3SJ fits, which I think is the same OD as 12-3SO).
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Mike Sokol on November 11, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
Still begs the question: The connectors are incapable of fitting 12ga SOOW or 12ga SEOOW.  The 3-jaw chuck will not take the wire and jacket and still fit into the barrel of the connector.  The cap/collet is of too small diameter to pass any 12GA SOOW that I have been able to find/research.  My experience is that 14ga SOOW (just) fits with lots of effort, and the 12ga SJOOW fits similarly.  Neither of these options are highly recommended by our own forum Oracles.

And that's the $64,000 question. I've talked to a number of local inspectors in Maryland, and they're OK with SJOOW for back-line stringers because it's not out in the crowds and not connected directly to a generator that could be set for 480/277 volts. So primary and secondary multi-phase distro cable really needs to be SOOW, but secondary 1P stringers "might" be able to get by with SJOOW depending on the AHJ. According to one of my wire manufacturing contacts, it's not possible to make SOOW any smaller in diameter, since the outer diameter is part of the spec.

However, I'm going to talk to my contacts at Neutrik to see if there's the possibility of a larger cap/collet for 12-gauge SOOW cable. 
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Nils Erickson on November 12, 2016, 12:10:06 AM
I don't know about the new Powercons, but I believe that 12-3SO will fit into the old ones if you grind the flare off of the chuck (10-3SJ fits, which I think is the same OD as 12-3SO).

I have a lot of 12/3 SO powercon cable that I use with these OA Windsor boxes all of the time (yes, it fits fine)... they work great, and I get lots of comments on what a good solution it is.  It is a moderate pain the bit about not disconnecting under load.

Curious to see how your true one solution works...

Nils
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on November 28, 2016, 12:10:39 AM
I found your web site and discovered that this is the OA Winsor that I thought it is. I am glad to see the company is back and now under your ownership. I am trying to convince a company I work with to update their Quad boxes and some of your other boxes look interesting. How does one find pricing? Are you planning on making a web site that one can order your products thru?

Kevin,

Sorry for the silence. I haven't gone on the forums for an obviously long time.

Hopefully this winter there will be time to work on the new website. PSW patrons and others have been keeping me so busy that I just haven't been able to catch up or feel the need to re make the site.

Yes, I hope to get at least a better presence by the spring, although with all the different wiring options and configurations, it is most often necessary to talk to the customer in person.

Thanks so much,  Sincerely,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on November 28, 2016, 12:17:35 AM
Jim, any plans to offer boxes with Decora-style covers to accommodate GFCI receptacles?

Jonathan,

Pressure is building to come up with a decora cover for sure. Having molds made these days is an incredibly expensive endeavor and having just taken over the company I have been fairly conservative in my expenditures.

For now, I can only say that yes I am thinking about it and will begin to do some research on the costs associated with the mold construction.

Thanks very much and sorry for the lengthy delay in responding. I have been burning the midnight oil to keep up with the box production end of things for months now.

Sincerely,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on November 28, 2016, 12:25:53 AM
Hello Jim, I would like to order some items from you, how do I go about it?

Juan Gomez
(951) 591-8789
[email protected]
Juan,

Sorry for the delayed response. I haven't been getting to look at the forums much at all lately.

You can call me at 307-674-8228, or e mail is actually best at [email protected] and we can discuss your needs.

Thanks alot and again I apologize for the delay.  Sincerely,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on November 28, 2016, 12:34:51 AM

Look cool, Mike.


Still begs the question: The connectors are incapable of fitting 12ga SOOW or 12ga SEOOW.  The 3-jaw chuck will not take the wire and jacket and still fit into the barrel of the connector.  The cap/collet is of too small diameter to pass any 12GA SOOW that I have been able to find/research.  My experience is that 14ga SOOW (just) fits with lots of effort, and the 12ga SJOOW fits similarly.  Neither of these options are highly recommended by our own forum Oracles.




I've even tried reaming out the cap/collet to no avail, and then there is still the chuck problem.  Any modification to either the cap/collet or chuck would negate the UL listing of the device methinks.


One thing I noticed when converting the euro power cables QSC supplies with their speakers to a 5-15p, their cable is constructed without any fiber (fibre?) fillers?  If the US 12ga SOOW were constructed without the filer (or minimal filler) maybe that would work.  Is ther such a US aminal?


It was obvious to me that Neutrik did not consider the needs of the US market when they produced this series of connectors.  Too bad, they seem a step up from the blue/white Powercons.


Second, separate subject. (and a request once I finish babbling on...)
I started making up my Power drops right around the time Ken passed. During that time, OA Windsor was not an option.


I used the Leviton boxes:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XDSEOK/ref=pd_sim_60_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KY2HAMAMMAYHJ8DFP7Q8


The 2-E boxes with the larger collet for my 10ga SEOOW cords, and the 1-E boxes for 12 ga.
I outfitted them with GFCI 5-20R outlets, one each side, wired in parallel with no pass through.


The cover plate I used are also from Leviton:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L5GBKHK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


One can use these in either a 2-screw attachment, or six screw attachment.  They work very well.


I asked Jim at OA Windsor whether these plates were compatible with his boxes, and offered to test-fit on a sample box, to which I got no response.  No problem. Lots to do to pick up a business.


So my question to you, Mike (or anyone else who wants to experiment) - can you see if these coverplates are workable on the OA Windsor boxes?  I know some folks here on this forum are interested in GFCI devices in rubber boxes - and that is one product OA Windsor has not been able to supply so far (in my experience, which is about a year old, now)


frank

Frank,

I was pretty sure we talked on the phone about at least the fact that I did not have a decora style plate. I don't remember discussing whether leviton plates work with OA Windsor boxes or not, I have a mind/memory like a steel sieve...

As I told Jonathan in this thread, I have been conservative with the expenditures for OA Windsor, not really knowing the market, but am fairly sure now that the business is viable enough to invest in some die making. I will look into it and hopefully come up with a plan soon.

Sorry if I never responded to your question.  Thanks,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Tim Padrick on November 28, 2016, 01:28:47 AM
Instead of a molded Decora plate, perhaps there's a suitable material that can be CNC'd?
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jonathan Johnson on November 28, 2016, 01:49:49 AM
Instead of a molded Decora plate, perhaps there's a suitable material that can be CNC'd?

For prototyping or very small runs, that might be viable. At some point, though, the number of parts justifies having a mold made and going for a large run. It's not the materials, it's the machining time that's expensive!
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Stephen Swaffer on November 28, 2016, 12:41:10 PM
Another option (I guess it actually fits in with CNCing) is water jet cutting-I have a customer that does custom water jet cutting-the variety of materials and detail he can is amazing-form .50 cal bullet proof glass to 7" think aluminum to thin foam rubber key fobs and detail down to names in the foam rubber.  Relatively low cost to set up runs-really no tooling cost, etc.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Mike Sokol on November 28, 2016, 04:10:36 PM
I just built up the first OAW True1 box, and it's a snug fit to get it all inside the box, but definitely doable. However, note that with the existing Neutrik True1 connector design there's no way to make 12-gauge SOOW cord fit inside the twist-on strain relief. So for now it's either 14-gauge SOOW, or 12-gauge SJOOW. I'm going to show this to my contacts at Neutrik to see if there's any way they can design and offer a strain-relief Ferrel with an inside diameter large enough to accept 12-gauge SOOW cable. 

That being said, after a few discussions off the record with various cable manufacturers, there could be an official exception to the SOOW cord requirement for backline stringers. I personally don't see anything wrong with SJ cord for backline stringers considering how much orange crap I see out there, but it's all in the eyes of the AHJ. 
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: frank kayser on December 03, 2016, 02:00:30 PM
Frank,

I was pretty sure we talked on the phone about at least the fact that I did not have a decora style plate. I don't remember discussing whether leviton plates work with OA Windsor boxes or not, I have a mind/memory like a steel sieve...

As I told Jonathan in this thread, I have been conservative with the expenditures for OA Windsor, not really knowing the market, but am fairly sure now that the business is viable enough to invest in some die making. I will look into it and hopefully come up with a plan soon.

Sorry if I never responded to your question.  Thanks,  Jim Spohn OA Windsor
If the Leviton pates fit your box, we'd be set.  All it would take would be to get the plate and box in the same vicinity.  You wouldn't have to tool anything up,, or have anything CNC'd.  You have the boxes and no plates... I have the Leviton Decora plates, but no boxes.  Maybe we could sort something out.
frank
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on December 04, 2016, 07:45:17 PM
If the Leviton pates fit your box, we'd be set.  All it would take would be to get the plate and box in the same vicinity.  You wouldn't have to tool anything up,, or have anything CNC'd.  You have the boxes and no plates... I have the Leviton Decora plates, but no boxes.  Maybe we could sort something out.
frank
Well Frank,

Unless you are taking a vacation to N Idaho in the near future and want to put a few covers in your suitcase I guess I will need to do my homework and get a couple covers. I see they are supposedly available at Crescent which we (sort of) have here. Now called Stoneway Electric by us... I will pick up a couple and see how it goes.

Thanks for putting the part number out there. I notice you said you could use it as a six screw, but all the pictures I see have only two punched out. I think the 6 option would be best on the rubber boxes.

I'll let you know.

Thanks   Jim OA Windsor
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: frank kayser on December 12, 2016, 12:39:35 AM
Well Frank,

Unless you are taking a vacation to N Idaho in the near future and want to put a few covers in your suitcase I guess I will need to do my homework and get a couple covers. I see they are supposedly available at Crescent which we (sort of) have here. Now called Stoneway Electric by us... I will pick up a couple and see how it goes.

Thanks for putting the part number out there. I notice you said you could use it as a six screw, but all the pictures I see have only two punched out. I think the 6 option would be best on the rubber boxes.

I'll let you know.

Thanks   Jim OA Windsor


Yeah Jim, only two are punched out.  The back of the plate has holes molded in about halfway through - and the plates are supplied with the six short phillips flat-head  head screws.  Drill them the rest of the way through, and countersink.


frank
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on February 10, 2017, 03:56:37 PM

I do not know for sure, but i BELIEVE these will work on the OA Windsor boxes.  I used these on some Leviton 3059 rubber boxes (of course designed for them) but the OA Windsor boxes my friend has SEEM to be quite similar.  Can be mounted with either two screws (outlet and plate to box) or six (drill plate and add four corner screws).  Only solution I've found.

frank

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L5GBKHK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Frank and all,

Finally got some of the Leviton 3060-E Decora Plates in my hands and they do fit the OA Windsor #2 and 3 boxes. At 4.60 EA from my supplier, they are a bit of an expense, but if there is any interest, maybe I can get a break on the price if I order a large quantity.

Thanks,  Jim  OA Windsor

Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Tim McCulloch on February 10, 2017, 04:03:44 PM


Hi Jim-

Thanks for the update.  I'm sure Ken would be pleased that you're taking such good care of OA Windsor and its customers. :)

If you see above I quoted your response and there's nothing it it...  Your reply to Frank needs to be *below* the last end-quote tag (the [ /quote] without the spaces) of the quoted message in order to display properly.  You can use the Preview button to confirm the formatting and display of your reply before posting.

Good to hear from you again.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on February 11, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
Hi Jim-

Thanks for the update.  I'm sure Ken would be pleased that you're taking such good care of OA Windsor and its customers. :)

If you see above I quoted your response and there's nothing it it...  Your reply to Frank needs to be *below* the last end-quote tag (the [ /quote] without the spaces) of the quoted message in order to display properly.  You can use the Preview button to confirm the formatting and display of your reply before posting.

Good to hear from you again.

Tim, Thanks for helping this rookie with the technical advice on how to correctly write my responses. Thanks also to Mac Kerr for editing my post yesterday to display properly.
Jim, OA Windsor
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on June 15, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
I found your web site and discovered that this is the OA Winsor that I thought it is. I am glad to see the company is back and now under your ownership. I am trying to convince a company I work with to update their Quad boxes and some of your other boxes look interesting. How does one find pricing? Are you planning on making a web site that one can order your products thru?
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Larry Sheehan on June 27, 2018, 11:08:37 AM


I was inspired to build another pair of quad boxes by this thread.

It turns out I was the first order from the new website. Ordered on last Wednesday and received on Sunday. I spent yesterday afternoon wiring them up.

This was my second order from Jim, and I've had excellent experience both times.


Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Corey Scogin on June 27, 2018, 02:24:24 PM
I was inspired to build another pair of quad boxes by this thread.

It turns out I was the first order from the new website. Ordered on last Wednesday and received on Sunday. I spent yesterday afternoon wiring them up.

This was my second order from Jim, and I've had excellent experience both times.

I just ordered a replacement for one of my OAW cords that went missing. I didn't realize the website was that new. I knew it was since Jim took over but assumed it had been up for a while. It was a smooth ordering experience for me. All of the relevant details about the various configurations were there so I could spec exactly what I needed. Good job Jim & OAW crew!
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on August 10, 2018, 05:07:43 PM
I just ordered a replacement for one of my OAW cords that went missing. I didn't realize the website was that new. I knew it was since Jim took over but assumed it had been up for a while. It was a smooth ordering experience for me. All of the relevant details about the various configurations were there so I could spec exactly what I needed. Good job Jim & OAW crew!

Thanks Larry and Corey for the positive comments on the new OAWindsor.com website! I did take a long time getting it live because the great referrals I was getting from the prosoundweb forum were keeping me plenty busy! The site should make exploring options and ordering a bit easier now. Btw, I'm open to suggestions for improving the site, as well as products you may be interested in seeing offered by OAW. THANKS! Jim

Jim Spohn
OAWindsor.com
307-674-8228
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Taylor Hall on August 14, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
The new site looks great, I wager you'll see a big influx of new orders now!

My only suggestions would be to a) change the thumbnails for the larger outlet boxes to that of the fully assembled product like you have to the smaller ones on the bottom row, and b) adding pre-assembled stringer boxes to the site.

Other than that, everything is nicely laid out and the product pages have plenty of info without being cluttered or hard to read.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jonathan Johnson on August 14, 2018, 02:57:04 PM
Btw, I'm open to suggestions for improving the site, as well as products you may be interested in seeing offered by OAW. THANKS! Jim

The "history" page flips too fast, before I finish reading a page. I think it would be OK to make it not flip; maybe make the "next" and "previous" buttons a little more obvious.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Ray Aberle on August 14, 2018, 04:23:58 PM
Btw, I'm open to suggestions for improving the site

Having it actually work on all browsers would probably help people look into your products. Just a thought. Simpler IS better when it comes to websites and cross-platform compatibility.

-Ray
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Taylor Hall on August 14, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
Having it actually work on all browsers would probably help people look into your products. Just a thought. Simpler IS better when it comes to websites and cross-platform compatibility.

-Ray

Safari is often the bane of many a web developer as it finds the most unique (read: infuriating) ways to render pages completely different (some would even say incorrect) from any other browser available. I suppose that's part of why it's barely clinging to a 5% worldwide usage rating...

Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Corey Scogin on August 14, 2018, 06:12:53 PM
Safari is often the bane of many a web developer as it finds the most unique (read: infuriating) ways to render pages completely different (some would even say incorrect) from any other browser available. I suppose that's part of why it's barely clinging to a 5% worldwide usage rating...

Safari is the new IE6.

Looks great in Chrome on a Mac.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Ray Aberle on August 14, 2018, 08:22:53 PM
You both missed the point.....


....... any site should render properly in any browser. That is, after all, the purpose of the internet. Using code that is specific to a certain browser defeats that purpose.


I might be alone in saying this, but if someone wants the maximum amount of potential customers to visit their site, it makes sense that they should code the site to be as friendly as possible.

-Ray
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Corey Scogin on August 14, 2018, 08:50:05 PM
You both missed the point.....
....... any site should render properly in any browser. That is, after all, the purpose of the internet. Using code that is specific to a certain browser defeats that purpose.

You missed the point that Safari is most often the culprit for not being standards-compliant these days. It might require code that's specific to a certain browser to work in Safari.
However, in this case, I think it's something else.

What version of Safari are you using?
oawindsor.com renders fine on my iPhone 6 in Safari and on my Mac in Safari.
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Ray Aberle on August 14, 2018, 11:45:47 PM
You missed the point that Safari is most often the culprit for not being standards-compliant these days. It might require code that's specific to a certain browser to work in Safari.
However, in this case, I think it's something else.

What version of Safari are you using?
oawindsor.com renders fine on my iPhone 6 in Safari and on my Mac in Safari.
Once again.... you might be not understanding the concept of The Internet...

The concept here is that we have an information source that SHOULD NOT BE dependent on the browser(s) accessing it. To dictate a model of browser for successful access to information defeats the purpose of the internet.

Now, granted that if someone is requiring security (purchases) then having a standard of privacy is important. But, since it only takes about 47 seconds to code in "Browser_Check" to a website (and then decide to send said result(s) to a separate site) that's a moot argument. A basic website should be willing and able to present its content to ANY user regardless of browser type. Why require users to have the "latest and greatest" browser just to view your website?!?

-Ray
Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Scott Holtzman on August 15, 2018, 12:11:07 AM
Second sites arent needed any more.  Bootstrap and proper responsove programming solves this.

The site is a reasonable effort from non-proammers.  They iaed a Wix template.  It was born from a decenr open source system and is a turd for suckers.

It's an easy way to stand up a site.  I would only pay with PayPal.  The way the CC processor is plugged in doesn't use a disagreator to abstract CC from identifying info,  the whole transaction is sent in one x509 session.





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Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on August 17, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
Scott, Ray, Corey, Taylor, and Jonathan,

We would like to thank you for commenting on the new OA Windsor.com website. We are taking the suggestions to heart and will try to incorporate some of the ideas in the not too distant future.

Again, we really appreciate you taking the time to give us your thoughts.

Jim Spohn OA Windsor

Title: Re: OA Windsor stage boxes - WOW
Post by: Jim Spohn on August 24, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
The "history" page flips too fast, before I finish reading a page. I think it would be OK to make it not flip; maybe make the "next" and "previous" buttons a little more obvious.
Jonathan,
We have turned off the "flip" timer and are trying to get the buttons to be a little more obvious.  Thanks,  Jim  OA Windsor