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Shure Axient Digital
http://www.prosoundweb.com/channels/av/shure-unveils-axient-digital-wireless-system/
Looks like a meld of original Axient and ULX-D. A few other interesting things as well.
-True diversity, ShowControl, and transmitter options from Axient
-Digital platform, quad receivers, Dante, and AES-256 Encryption, and high density mode from ULX-D.
-About 33% lower latency than ULX-D (2ms vs. 2.9ms).
-They appear to be offering transmitters with and without show control.
They say 184 MHz tuning bandwidth for Tx and Rx. Once current actions become legally binding in the United States there won't even be 184mhz of contiguous bandwidth available in UHF. Any thoughts on this?
I have mostly ULX-D G50 and some UHFR H4 in my current inventory and I will need to expand sometime in the next 12-18 months. I've got to wrap my head around the options.
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I saw it at NAB, it looks cool overall, pricing is supposed to be much closer to ULX-D than Axient. Frequencies supposedly don't stay put, so don't know how that will affect tight coordination.
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I saw it at NAB, it looks cool overall, pricing is supposed to be much closer to ULX-D than Axient. Frequencies supposedly don't stay put, so don't know how that will affect tight coordination.
What do you meant frequencies won't stay put? I don't see anything about that in any of the literature.
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I asked if the frequencies were set manually and stayed until manually changed, or if they hopped. I was told they move on their own, but not full hopping. I put it on my mental list to confirm later.
At the Sennheiser booth, looking at the 6k series, the person I talked with made the first point that the frequencies stay where they are told.
Both products looked cool, but for different reasons.
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If it's anything like the current axient line up, then you can have it setup to automatically change frequencies, or just prompt whenever a hit is detected. I would be disappointed if they put the axient name on a product that wasn't similar. In all my venues that have coordinators I just ask/ or tell them twice the number frequencies that will ever be in use, and program the extras into the spectrum manager as backups.
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If it's anything like the current axient line up, then you can have it setup to automatically change frequencies, or just prompt whenever a hit is detected. I would be disappointed if they put the axient name on a product that wasn't similar. In all my venues that have coordinators I just ask/ or tell them twice the number frequencies that will ever be in use, and program the extras into the spectrum manager as backups.
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I agree, I would be really surprised if this wasn't just like the interference avoidance system from Axient Analog. Subject to your programming, Axient can automatically jump from your set frequency to a predetermined backup frequency if you are running a showlink network. It can also be programmed not to do this. Also, based on the Axient Digital literature, this feature would only be available for the new ADX transmitters with showlink, not the AD ones. This is almost nothing like a true 'frequency hopping' system like in 2.4ghz.
Caleb, My guess is that you've misunderstood what they meant. I don't *think* there is any unknown or unplanned frequency hopping that will be happening.
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There will be two lines of transmitters - AD and ADX. The ADX line will have the transmitter remote control like the current analog Axient. That means that you can have the receiver requesting new frequencies from the Spectrum Manager just like analog, and I think it'll even be the exact same AXT600 spectrum manager. Up to you the operator to decide if you want automatic frequency switching or not, and like now you'll have some control over that via the spectrum manager's frequency list and WWB.
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There will be two lines of transmitters - AD and ADX. The ADX line will have the transmitter remote control like the current analog Axient. That means that you can have the receiver requesting new frequencies from the Spectrum Manager just like analog, and I think it'll even be the exact same AXT600 spectrum manager. Up to you the operator to decide if you want automatic frequency switching or not, and like now you'll have some control over that via the spectrum manager's frequency list and WWB.
I was really hoping for frequency diversity in the bodypack as well, something the current crop does not have. At least they kept it in the handheld.
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I was really hoping for frequency diversity in the bodypack as well, something the current crop does not have. At least they kept it in the handheld.
Look at it this way: There are things that can go wrong with a bodypack aside from interference.
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I was really hoping for frequency diversity in the bodypack as well, something the current crop does not have. At least they kept it in the handheld.
Yeah, that's interesting. Cables, external antennas and etc.
Any thoughts on the new system and wireless going forward?
What are your companies buying right now or looking at buying next year?
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So...
Anyone yet had a chance to use the Axient Digital systems and what were your impressions? I am seriously considering purchasing 16 channels worth when the ADX transmitters become available.
Thanks,
Tom
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We brought an AD system to our usual football gig (ref mic is analog Axient), and put the pack on the ref wrangler. It did quite well, better coverage than the analog system.
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We brought an AD system to our usual football gig (ref mic is analog Axient), and put the pack on the ref wrangler. It did quite well, better coverage than the analog system.
Scott,
Thanks for your response. Anyone else used the Axient Digital systems?
Tom
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I have been using 6 channels since August. You will love the ease of set up, the wide tuning range and the ability to sync without opening the battery compartment. Scanning and deploying an Rf solution via WWB is really easy. The alert when the system detects interference is a cool feature.
One caveat: I had to switch my lead singer back to UHFR because the extra little bit of latency caused issues with his in ear monitors. During our downtime at tour's end I intend to upgrade my mixer to 96k (i.e. install Stealth core 2) to see if that will reduce the latency enough to allow me to switch everybody to AXD.
Shure support says it will only save "micro seconds" for the mic, but Digico claims it will halve (to <1ms) the latency of my SD8. Hopefully that will be enough.
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I have been using 6 channels since August. You will love the ease of set up, the wide tuning range and the ability to sync without opening the battery compartment. Scanning and deploying an Rf solution via WWB is really easy. The alert when the system detects interference is a cool feature.
One caveat: I had to switch my lead singer back to UHFR because the extra little bit of latency caused issues with his in ear monitors. During our downtime at tour's end I intend to upgrade my mixer to 96k (i.e. install Stealth core 2) to see if that will reduce the latency enough to allow me to switch everybody to AXD.
Shure support says it will only save "micro seconds" for the mic, but Digico claims it will halve (to <1ms) the latency of my SD8. Hopefully that will be enough.
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I didn't think the SD8 could do 96K. I didn't look closely since the DiGiRack I have won't do 96K anyways, so I could be wrong.
If you don't need lots of automation & professing on the lead vox channel one latency avoidance measure is to split that mic feed and run it into a small external mixer and the rest of his mix from the console into it. Then out to ears. That way his vox runs a faster path.
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To the OP: Sorry for the topic swerve. I believe you will be happy with the Axient System.
To Erik: I had read somewhere that the V2 upgrade allowed 96khz processing. After reading your response I checked with Digico. Evidently the SD8 w/V2 will do 96K, but my MADI rack won't. Thanks for the heads up. i've got to re-think this.
I didn't think the SD8 could do 96K. I didn't look closely since the DiGiRack I have won't do 96K anyways, so I could be wrong.
If you don't need lots of automation & professing on the lead vox channel one latency avoidance measure is to split that mic feed and run it into a small external mixer and the rest of his mix from the console into it. Then out to ears. That way his vox runs a faster path.
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Anyone else used the Axient Digital systems?
For the Macy's T-Day Parade and the week after, the Christmas in Rockefeller Center Tree Lighting, Josh Flower and I used 12 Axient RX in quadversity mode for a total of 24 mics. The results are amazing. Even with higher noise floor on 34th street almost directly under the Empire State building the audio was flawless. Spreading the antennas A/B at the host platform, C/D at the main stage and remotely over fiber, A/B split to also cover 6th avenue around the corner, there was no place from 6th avenue and 33rd street to almost 7th avenue on 34th street without a solid lock on all channels.
Notice in the pix that each channel shows 4 RF levels.
Josh specified some Wisycom equipment to help. The MFL RF over fiber (http://www.wisycom.com/www3/usa/products/category/category/fiber_rack_unit) extended the A/B antennas over to 6th avenue. The MAT antenna switch (http://www.wisycom.com/www3/usa/products/category/category/combiner/category/product/mat244) was setup for 4 in and 4 out control. The 4 outputs fed 2 Sennheiser antenna DA to feed the 2 racks of the Axient (and 1 Audio Technica) receivers.
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I asked if the frequencies were set manually and stayed until manually changed, or if they hopped. I was told they move on their own, but not full hopping. I put it on my mental list to confirm later.
AD currently does not have remote control of the TX. When You set the frequency it is fixed until you manually change it and re-sync the TX.
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What are you doing for batteries and what sort of running time are you getting? Shure seems to be "encouraging" us to buy there rechargeable packs, but they are a bit pricey (especially the chargers) and I'm not a fan of sending out rechargeables for a rental.
Also, it seem the ADX transmitters, if you don't use the rechargeables, require some sort of battery sled/adapter that makes it possible to us AAA's. I'm a bit concerned as to the run time with AAA's and how flimsy the adapter will be.
Tom
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You can use AAs without the adaptor.
What are you doing for batteries and what sort of running time are you getting? Shure seems to be "encouraging" us to buy there rechargeable packs, but they are a bit pricey (especially the chargers) and I'm not a fan of sending out rechargeables for a rental.
Also, it seem the ADX transmitters, if you don't use the rechargeables, require some sort of battery sled/adapter that makes it possible to us AAA's. I'm a bit concerned as to the run time with AAA's and how flimsy the adapter will be.
Tom
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AD currently does not have remote control of the TX. When You set the frequency it is fixed until you manually change it and re-sync the TX.
Basically AD is a digital UHF-R. Dunno why they've been goofing around on the naming conventions lately!
Later on they will be releasing "ADX" series transmitters that do all the cool original Axient stuff like automatic frequency changes and remote control of the transmitter. The current AD receivers will work with the ADX transmitters, though you'll also need to have a Spectrum Manager and at least one Showlink access point. If you've already got that stuff you won't need to buy new versions.
http://www.shure.com/americas/axient-digital/adx
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For the Macy's T-Day Parade and the week after, the Christmas in Rockefeller Center Tree Lighting, Josh Flower and I used 12 Axient RX in quadversity mode for a total of 24 mics. The results are amazing. Even with higher noise floor on 34th street almost directly under the Empire State building the audio was flawless. Spreading the antennas A/B at the host platform, C/D at the main stage and remotely over fiber, A/B split to also cover 6th avenue around the corner, there was no place from 6th avenue and 33rd street to almost 7th avenue on 34th street without a solid lock on all channels.
Notice in the pix that each channel shows 4 RF levels.
Josh specified some Wisycom equipment to help. The MFL RF over fiber (http://www.wisycom.com/www3/usa/products/category/category/fiber_rack_unit) extended the A/B antennas over to 6th avenue. The MAT antenna switch (http://www.wisycom.com/www3/usa/products/category/category/combiner/category/product/mat244) was setup for 4 in and 4 out control. The 4 outputs fed 2 Sennheiser antenna DA to feed the 2 racks of the Axient (and 1 Audio Technica) receivers.
Pete,
Would you mind expanding a bit on your antenna count/signal flow for this? Am I reading this correctly in that you were using more than 4 antennas? I was just having a discussion this afternoon on some possibilities for Quadversity, so inquiring minds and all that.
Thanks!
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Pete,
Would you mind expanding a bit on your antenna count/signal flow for this? Am I reading this correctly in that you were using more than 4 antennas? I was just having a discussion this afternoon on some possibilities for Quadversity, so inquiring minds and all that.
Thanks!
I think what Pete's post says is that they were using 8 receive antennas that went to an 8x4 antenna switch that was used to route the antennas 4 at a time into the Axient Quadversity distribution.
Mac
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Pete,
Would you mind expanding a bit on your antenna count/signal flow for this? Am I reading this correctly in that you were using more than 4 antennas? I was just having a discussion this afternoon on some possibilities for Quadversity, so inquiring minds and all that.
Thanks!
We actually used 6 antennas. Three pairs of outputs came from the MAT switcher. which had
A pair at the host booth A/B,
a pair at the 34th st stage C/D,
and a third pair of the MAT sending A/B into the MFL RF over Fiber around the corner to 35th street.
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"What are you doing for batteries and what sort of running time are you getting? Shure seems to be "encouraging" us to buy there rechargeable packs, but they are a bit pricey (especially the chargers) and I'm not a fan of sending out rechargeables for a rental."
I used there rechargeable batteries and chargers with 16 channels of PSM1000 for 18 months without any issues. We had 2 sets of batteries 1 set on charge and one set in the packs. Never had an issue.
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"What are you doing for batteries and what sort of running time are you getting? Shure seems to be "encouraging" us to buy there rechargeable packs, but they are a bit pricey (especially the chargers) and I'm not a fan of sending out rechargeables for a rental."
I used there rechargeable batteries and chargers with 16 channels of PSM1000 for 18 months without any issues. We had 2 sets of batteries 1 set on charge and one set in the packs. Never had an issue.
We use Procells and change them before every show - so each set does one 75 minute show. The next day I do rf scans and tuning before lunch, then leave all transmitters on til after sound check - a total of about 5 hours - then change them out. There always seems to be plenty of charge left after sound check.
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We use Procells and change them before every show - so each set does one 75 minute show. The next day I do rf scans and tuning before lunch, then leave all transmitters on til after sound check - a total of about 5 hours - then change them out. There always seems to be plenty of charge left after sound check.
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Not that I would want to push it, but any idea the maximum run time on a set of AA's?
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Not that I would want to push it, but any idea the maximum run time on a set of AA's?
I'll try to test that Monday when I'm back at the shop. But I'd guess that it won't be too different from ULX-D, which usually gets 8-10 hours from alkalines (normal transmit power).
I'll also guess that the ADX transmitters will *not* get as good a battery life due to the extra Showlink stuff.
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I just did my first TV show with the Axient digital. Everything runnig AES to a DirectOut Andiamo.aes with SRC and then in to the Digico Optocore Network via an Optocore DD2. IEM's were Wisycom which vere also fed with AES from the same box.
Generally very good performance, even on 10mW.
We did have a lot of RF overload LED blinking on the receivers, even with passive LPDA's, maybe i need to look into som highpass RF filters to block anything below 500 MHz.
Also some people are confused with setting the gain, but you just need to teach them that it is not a uhf-r system...
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I thought I read somewhere that Yamaha will be supporting the new Axient Digital systems via Dante in their QL and CL consoles, much a similar manor that the QL's and CL's currently interface with the Shure ULX-D series.
Has anyone else seen or hear this? It may just have been wishful thinking on my part.
Tom
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I thought I read somewhere that Yamaha will be supporting the new Axient Digital systems via Dante in their QL and CL consoles, much a similar manor that the QL's and CL's currently interface with the Shure ULX-D series.
Has anyone else seen or hear this? It may just have been wishful thinking on my part.
Tom
They already "support" Axient, UHF-R, QLX-D, and yes, ULX-D. I personally haven't heard anything on Axient Digital though.
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They already "support" Axient, UHF-R, QLX-D, and yes, ULX-D. I personally haven't heard anything on Axient Digital though.
HERE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehP5SLGWIRo) is a video that Peter Schneider of Gotham Sound shot at NAB last April. It explains some of the features of Axient Digital.
Mac
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Are prices or real availability dates for ADX announced yet?
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I just did my first TV show with the Axient digital. Everything runnig AES to a DirectOut Andiamo.aes with SRC and then in to the Digico Optocore Network via an Optocore DD2. IEM's were Wisycom which vere also fed with AES from the same box.
Generally very good performance, even on 10mW.
We did have a lot of RF overload LED blinking on the receivers, even with passive LPDA's, maybe i need to look into som highpass RF filters to block anything below 500 MHz.
Also some people are confused with setting the gain, but you just need to teach them that it is not a uhf-r system...
You will get rf overload if your RX antennas are too near a TX antenna. The overload is pre tuning, just overall rf.
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Are prices or real availability dates for ADX announced yet?
Not officially. However if you need a quote, your Shure dealer can provide some preliminary pricing, though it may change between now and when the product is released 2nd quarter.
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You will get rf overload if your RX antennas are too near a TX antenna. The overload is pre tuning, just overall rf.
I know, but in this case it was from UHF walkies, which are hard to keep away from stage on a tv show ;-)
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Are prices or real availability dates for ADX announced yet?
According to Shure, April is when they will be released.
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This weekend I was using 14 channels of Shure Axient Digital running the latest software and experienced a strange bug. One of the packs ran out of power and after swapping the batteries the pack had reset the frequency back to factory default G1 Ch1 (470.400Mhz).
Has anyone experienced the same bug?
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I had 3x AD receivers with a CL5/SWP yesterday.
Main 4.10
Sub 4.10
Dante 3.10.0.19
Rx/Tx version 1.0.17
ADrx were recognized but not supported.
Will update them to 1.0.21 and see if that helps.
They already "support" Axient, UHF-R, QLX-D, and yes, ULX-D. I personally haven't heard anything on Axient Digital though.
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I was wondering if one knows the UHFR system like the back of their hand, and am quite familiar with the older Axient system, how different is the new system?
Shure Axient Digital
http://www.prosoundweb.com/channels/av/shure-unveils-axient-digital-wireless-system/
Looks like a meld of original Axient and ULX-D. A few other interesting things as well.
-True diversity, ShowControl, and transmitter options from Axient
-Digital platform, quad receivers, Dante, and AES-256 Encryption, and high density mode from ULX-D.
-About 33% lower latency than ULX-D (2ms vs. 2.9ms).
-They appear to be offering transmitters with and without show control.
They say 184 MHz tuning bandwidth for Tx and Rx. Once current actions become legally binding in the United States there won't even be 184mhz of contiguous bandwidth available in UHF. Any thoughts on this?
I have mostly ULX-D G50 and some UHFR H4 in my current inventory and I will need to expand sometime in the next 12-18 months. I've got to wrap my head around the options.
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I was wondering if one knows the UHFR system like the back of their hand, and am quite familiar with the older Axient system, how different is the new system?
Axient digital is an entirely new RF platform, though it does owe much to both ULXD and analog Axient, just as any new product is built upon knowledge gained from prior designs. Although a bit splashy, the Shure microsite for Axient Digital (http://www.shure.com/americas/axient-digital/overview) does provide a fair amount of information.
And FWIW, I'm adopting Cameron Stuckey's terminology to differentiate between the analog and digital lines: "Axient" and "Daxient" (for those of you who [will] have both lines in their inventory or on their shows) :)
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Axient digital is an entirely new RF platform, though it does owe much to both ULXD and analog Axient, just as any new product is built upon knowledge gained from prior designs. Although a bit splashy, the Shure microsite for Axient Digital (http://www.shure.com/americas/axient-digital/overview) does provide a fair amount of information.
And FWIW, I'm adopting Cameron Stuckey's terminology to differentiate between the analog and digital lines: "Axient" and "Daxient" (for those of you who [will] have both lines in their inventory or on their shows) :)
Daxient it is!
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Does the Axient Digital allow for a split network where Shure Control and Dante Primary live on one port, and Dante Secondary on another? From the manual, it doesn't seem like that's the case, but I find it odd that that feature would exist on ULX-D but not Axient Digital.
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Does the Axient Digital allow for a split network where Shure Control and Dante Primary live on one port, and Dante Secondary on another? From the manual, it doesn't seem like that's the case, but I find it odd that that feature would exist on ULX-D but not Axient Digital.
There are 4 separate ethernet ports on the back of the receiver. Dante Primary, Dante Secondary, 2x Control.
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Transfer function of an AD
(https://i.imgur.com/MaNfFng.png)
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Transfer function of an AD
Need information on the test setup to interpret those results. Is that through a mic? What mic? Line into a pack? Which output of the receiver?
Mac
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Need information on the test setup to interpret those results. Is that through a mic? What mic? Line into a pack? Which output of the receiver?
Mac
Mac,
I'm splitting a channel of pink noise. One is going directly to my Octacapture as a reference. The other is going 1/4" to a ta4f connector into an AD1. The output of the AD4d is feeding the measurement channel.
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Mac,
I'm splitting a channel of pink noise. One is going directly to my Octacapture as a reference. The other is going 1/4" to a ta4f connector into an AD1. The output of the AD4d is feeding the measurement channel.
Cool. With that expanded vertical scale it's better than it looks, it's only down 1dB at that dip at 17k. The phase seems like a lot for a direct connection, but even that has a pretty narrow vertical window for live measurements. I wouldn't use that for product testing in a lab, but I wouldn't shy away from it for live acoustic measurements. On a live gig I'm mostly concerned with stuff below about 5k, above that is tune by ear unless something is feeding back up there.
Mac
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I had 3x AD receivers with a CL5/SWP yesterday.
Main 4.10
Sub 4.10
Dante 3.10.0.19
Rx/Tx version 1.0.17
ADrx were recognized but not supported.
Will update them to 1.0.21 and see if that helps.
Updated to 1.0.21 with the same results on the CL. AD can be mounted and patched but they aren't 'supported' like the ulxd. By 'supported' I mean, they will show up on a channel but head amp control is in the receiver, not on the desks HA knob. They also do not show up as a mountable device. 4.10 was released 3/17, hopefully the next update includes the AD as a mountable device.
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I just heard that Shure announced that the new ADX transmitters are in production, but they are being "allocated" so that certain high profile customers receive priority.
Can anyone confirm this? Also, any idea if the rebate will be extended beyond October 31 to allow those of us who have been waiting (very patiently) for the ADX transmitters the opportunity to take advantage of the rebate? At thins point, with limited availability, it may be very difficult to place an order and receive the product before the deadline.
Tom
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Tom,
Our Dealer Bulletin today indicated that they're in production, but yes, demand is high, and they want to ensure "the most time-sensitive projects and productions receive priority."
Do you have a dealer you work with? My bulletin says to contact my sales rep for more information- so I think that means I would reach out to them if you place an order and work to get your order filled as quickly as possible
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Well, I've changed my mind.
I was planning to purchase 16 channels of the Axient Digital with the ADX transmitters, but now that pricing is available, the cost is to prohibitive for my pockets. I found that by the time I pay the extra money for 16 ADX beltpacks and 8 ADX handhelds, the costs of mutiple battery chargers (the ADX will ONLY use Shure's proprietory battery as opposed to the AD transmitters that can use AA's), the cost of the AD610 Access Point and the AXT600 Spectrum Manager (which are needed to take advantage of the additional features of the ADX transmitters) it will add another $20,000 to the purchase price.
So, tomorrow I'm placing an order for 16 channesl of the Axient Digital system with just the "AD" transmitters. I think that will be fine. I'm just a small operator working out of my basement for mostly corporate clients. At least they will appreciate the ability to encrypt the signals, which I've not been able to do before, and I'll enjoy being able to connect it all via Dante to my QL1 and QL5.
Tom
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and I'll enjoy being able to connect it all via Dante to my QL1 and QL5.
Not sure if I missed an update but last I check they still aren't as slick as the ulxd. Is head amp control and battery level available yet?
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Not sure if I missed an update but last I check they still aren't as slick as the ulxd. Is head amp control and battery level available yet?
Head amp control is available for the new axient digital with the latest V5 upgrade to the CL/QL desks. I deployed it in a stadium with no issues a month or so back. I am still waiting on the ADX transmitters to actually ship though. I was last told we should see something by the end of the month....however they didn't say which month.
Tom talks about the ADX and associated peripherals being very expensive, which is true, however Axient Digital is much much cheaper the Axient Analog. Around half price the last time I ran the numbers.
Tom, I would ask why you need axient digital and not just ULX-D. That offers the encryption and Dante you are looking for. The only thing you don't get is the ability to broadcast on two simultaneous frequencies (if you purchase the correct axient handheld transmitter)
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Head amp control is available for the new axient digital with the latest V5 upgrade to the CL/QL desks. I deployed it in a stadium with no issues a month or so back. I am still waiting on the ADX receivers to actually ship though. I was last told we should see something by the end of the month....however they didn't say which month.
Tom talks about the ADX and associated peripherals being very expensive, which is true, however Axient Digital is much much cheaper the Axient Analog. Around half price the last time I ran the numbers.
Tom, I would ask why you need axient digital and not just ULX-D. That offers the encryption and Dante you are looking for. The only thing you don't get is the ability to broadcast on two simultaneous frequencies (if you purchase the correct axient handheld transmitter)
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Actually, you're quite right. The ULX-D's would be just fine for my applications. I've used them many times. My main concern was that the ULX-D lacks the "bandwidth" of the Axient Digital (about 184Mhz compared to, at best, 64Mhz with the ULX-D). Additionally, the ULX-D has been out for about 6 years now and I'm concerned about ("perceived") obsolescence in the not too distance future.
Regarding the "ADX receivers", I'm pretty sure there is just one version of the receiver that works with both the AD and ADX transmitters, the AD4Q (for the quad unit, but they do sell a 2 channel version as well). Although they do offer a model AD4Q-DC that has the option for DC operation, and/or redundant AC - DC power configuration.
Tom
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Regarding the "ADX receivers", I'm pretty sure there is just one version of the receiver that works with both the AD and ADX transmitters, the AD4Q (for the quad unit, but they do sell a 2 channel version as well). Although they do offer a model AD4Q-DC that has the option for DC operation, and/or redundant AC - DC power configuration.
Tom
I meant ADX transmitters. I’ll edit the post.
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I meant ADX transmitters. I’ll edit the post.
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A memo was sent out from Shure last week that read:
"Dear Shure Dealer,
We are pleased to inform you that all Axient Digital ADX series transmitters are now in production: the ADX1 bodypack, ADX2 and ADX2FD handhelds, and the revolutionary new ADX1M micro bodypack. These ShowLink-enabled transmitters have successfully completed months of rigorous field testing in some of the world's toughest RF environments, and on high-profile productions such as Jesus Christ Superstar, Jagged Little Pill, and the Tony Awards.
Demand is high, and we will endeavour to fulfill all orders as soon as possible. For the short-term, we have instituted a global allocation program to ensure that the most time-sensitive projects and productions receive priority. Please contact your sales representative for more information."
Additionally, I spoke with one of the reps that indicated they were now shipping.
Tom
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A memo was sent out from Shure last week that read:
"Dear Shure Dealer,
We are pleased to inform you that all Axient Digital ADX series transmitters are now in production: the ADX1 bodypack, ADX2 and ADX2FD handhelds, and the revolutionary new ADX1M micro bodypack. These ShowLink-enabled transmitters have successfully completed months of rigorous field testing in some of the world's toughest RF environments, and on high-profile productions such as Jesus Christ Superstar, Jagged Little Pill, and the Tony Awards.
Demand is high, and we will endeavour to fulfill all orders as soon as possible. For the short-term, we have instituted a global allocation program to ensure that the most time-sensitive projects and productions receive priority. Please contact your sales representative for more information."
Additionally, I spoke with one of the reps that indicated they were now shipping.
Tom
Oh I am well aware of the memo, as I got it as well. The response I gave above is what I received when i asked when "my" transmitters were shipping. They have been on order since July.
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Tom, I would ask why you need axient digital and not just ULX-D. That offers the encryption and Dante you are looking for. The only thing you don't get is the ability to broadcast on two simultaneous frequencies (if you purchase the correct axient handheld transmitter)
In addition to increased RF bandwidth, there's also True Diversity, and the Quad Diversity feature.