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Seth Steplton

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Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:35:02 PM »

My monitor guy and I are here in the front lounge discussing. Neither of us has ever been on a SD7. He says the SD7T has runtime automation on it. Being that I've worked on the D5T, SD8 I've never seen Digico use runtime automation. Please let us know who wins..
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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 08:40:47 PM »

My monitor guy and I are here in the front lounge discussing. Neither of us has ever been on a SD7. He says the SD7T has runtime automation on it. Being that I've worked on the D5T, SD8 I've never seen Digico use runtime automation. Please let us know who wins..

What do you mean by "runtime automation"?

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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 08:44:22 PM »

Runtime Automation is fader automation found on most recording consoles, or high end broadcast desk (sony, SSL, Neve). It will record fader movement.
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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 08:49:09 PM »

Runtime Automation is fader automation found on most recording consoles, or high end broadcast desk (sony, SSL, Neve). It will record fader movement.

The SD7T adds a more sophisticated scene management system, but there is no automation that tracks timecode AFAIK. There is scene crossfading, but not TC tracking.

The only current digital live sound console I am familiar with that will track fader moves to timecode is the Yamaha DM2000, and it was originally positioned as a post production console.

The PM5d and PM1d will take scenes based on timecode, and those scenes can have whatever crossfade timing you want, but they do not do automated fader moves either.

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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 06:03:23 AM »

Hey! I'm curious, does anyone know of an other live mixing desk that has run time automation on it? I think it's possible to record fader movements on a CL5 with an external MIDI device but apart from that... Thanks!

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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 11:39:15 AM »

Hey! I'm curious, does anyone know of an other live mixing desk that has run time automation on it? I think it's possible to record fader movements on a CL5 with an external MIDI device but apart from that... Thanks!

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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 12:22:40 PM »

The SD7T adds a more sophisticated scene management system, but there is no automation that tracks timecode AFAIK. There is scene crossfading, but not TC tracking.

The only current digital live sound console I am familiar with that will track fader moves to timecode is the Yamaha DM2000, and it was originally positioned as a post production console.

The PM5d and PM1d will take scenes based on timecode, and those scenes can have whatever crossfade timing you want, but they do not do automated fader moves either.

Mac


Mac, what do you mean by "do not do automated fader moves"?

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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 01:56:00 PM »


Mac, what do you mean by "do not do automated fader moves"?

NECAM, as an example.  Where faders, pots, mutes, etc follow time code during the playback/mix down process.  Like a light board executing cues and having the faders move.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 02:33:24 PM »

NECAM, as an example.  Where faders, pots, mutes, etc follow time code during the playback/mix down process.  Like a light board executing cues and having the faders move.

Several boards can take cues off TC, but in Oct of 2011 I was referring to moves that repeated the fader moves that were recorded in real time, not firing off a snapshot.

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Re: Can someone settle this dispute for us.
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 02:41:27 PM »

Several boards can take cues off TC, but in Oct of 2011 I was referring to moves that repeated the fader moves that were recorded in real time, not firing off a snapshot.

Mac

Ah yes, the other half of "how did that fader get programed to move THERE." 
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