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[Jim Muenchow]

"I still think over 80% of the sound quality is operator skill and the decisions about how to set up in a space. The other 20% is the box itself. All of these low end boxes are a series of compromises, where the power amp is placed is just one of many, and not one that I think makes nearly the difference."

Jay and Pat, my first post here...and enjoyed your responses as we've recently purchased this box to go w/ 2-elx112P boxes.  Completely agree on the 80/20...  Further, here and w/ other posts on this box, I've seen a trend where users attempt to fill a 150-300 ppl venue w/ one of these boxes, sometimes outside...  to me, that's entirely insufficient...even for modest volume levels...  I'm old school...over 30 yr. in the band business...built cabs, bought cabs, BURNED cabs... I prescribe to the ol' general 2-1 ration of bottom to top...no?  If you have two tops say even at 500W, and are drillin' 'em, ...there's no reasonable way one 700w bottom is going to suffice proportion wise...  spose you could trim the tops....but you kill your headroom...if you really had any at all...  I also wondered w/ some of the posts elsewhere if there weren't those trying to get 20-30Hz from a 32Hz box at best...  Anyhoo, I appreciate your comments and look forward to more...  Jim Muenchow, WI

[Mac Kerr]

Jay and Pat, my first post here...

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[David Hoover]

Sorry, this isn't much help with the ELX's, but I've heard these subs next to a few others in a music store.  They just don't go low enough for me and the output is a little weak. 

If you can go passive, the QRx 218s's are just awesome subs.  I've used 2 of them for 3+ years.  They are powerful, clean, and will hit down to 30Hz like nobody's business.  The only downside is that with these subs, they like to be crossed over low.  I cross them over at 75Hz because their midbass region is definitely slow and unclear if I had to describe it.  The tops take care of the midbass though, so no biggie.  They do what subs are supposed to I think.  They are just awesome.  These are very durable, too.  I can touch red on my powerlite PL380 all day long and not hear a wine from them.  Highly recommend these subs.  They are more efficient coming in at 102dB (@40Hz) 1w/m as well.

[Scott Bolt]

It was my understanding that the PRX618 XLF was based off of the SRX driver.  If that is true, then the list price of $1300.00 is the best bargain on the market IMHO.

I wouldn't put 2 tops over a single powered sub for many reasons; certainly not an ELX sub (perhaps an LS801p?).  This is doubly true for an outdoor venue.

My favorite (in this price category ..... ie Meyer is out as is SRX), would be clearly the PRX618 XLF by a mile.

[Benji J Koshy]

I have the subs and just got them, and debating whether to keep or return them.  Like them cos they're light and can handle regular indoor gigs. Using one sub per two tops, currently, although at 700watts, it is probably not sufficient.

Dislikes: they have an eq bump around 90hz, probably from the cabinet.  When pushing them louder, they have distortion from the ports from pushing air, as well as body vibration.

Like another poster said, the 80-20% is sort of true.  You have to know the gear and work around its capabilities (to an extent.)  I do EQ out the bump, but not much you can do about port noise, unless you physically modify it.  I haven't run into overheating or cutting out issues, but that's cos I haven't driven them hard yet.  Compared to a QSC kw181 sub, it did feel like the QSC had a more open sound and was able to go lower without a noticeable bump at any particular frequency.  But at the same time, it did feel like the QSC sub lacked punch and was pushing a lot of air.  Many will disagree with me probably, I'm not saying its a bad sub, just saying that sometimes a little frequency bump from the cabinet does create a certain oomph to the sound when tuned correctly.

[Mac Kerr]

Like another poster said, the 80-20% is sort of true.

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