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Tim McCulloch

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Re: at what point do you stop caring about your clients?
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 07:19:01 PM »

"Shut Up and trust the Magic Pixie Dust" isn't exactly the best answer to give to a bunch of contrarian, independent-minded audio techs.  ;)

But that's exactly what d & b, l'Acoustics, EAW and JBL are doing.  And so far, most of the techs I've met aren't capable of *engineering* a system (of any significant sophistication) at the pass band level.  It's not a knee jerk deference to a higher authority, it's an observation after 30 years in the trenches.

That said, if the voicing of the rig is at issue, get them a bunch of EQs, install them with great fanfare and costs... and hardwire them into bypass or don't put them in the signal path.  I've seen both done in installs. Apparently the placebo effect is very strong in contrarian, independent-minded audio techs.

Have fun, good luck.

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Re: at what point do you stop caring about your clients?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 10:54:10 PM »

"Shut Up and trust the Magic Pixie Dust" isn't exactly the best answer to give to a bunch of contrarian, independent-minded audio techs.  ;)

But that's exactly what d & b, l'Acoustics, EAW and JBL are doing.

Except that's not what they are doing, IMNSHO. It may have started like that be at this date we have at least some information as to what the "Magic Pixie Dust" is doing to the signal. There is a reason EAW et. al. have white papers out about what their stuff does.

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Re: at what point do you stop caring about your clients?
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 11:02:26 PM »

Except that's not what they are doing, IMNSHO. It may have started like that be at this date we have at least some information as to what the "Magic Pixie Dust" is doing to the signal. There is a reason EAW et. al. have white papers out about what their stuff does.

I have a certain amount of experience setting up speakers, and I would not ever consider trying to rewrite the factory presets of a successful system. It is not easy or straight forward. The amount of detail that exists in factory presets is nothing like the old days of having the crossover at FOH so you can change the crossover frequency on a day to day basis. Reading white papers doesn't make me a speaker designer. I'm  speaker user.

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Re: at what point do you stop caring about your clients?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2011, 08:57:01 AM »

I have a certain amount of experience setting up speakers, and I would not ever consider trying to rewrite the factory presets of a successful system. It is not easy or straight forward. The amount of detail that exists in factory presets is nothing like the old days of having the crossover at FOH so you can change the crossover frequency on a day to day basis. Reading white papers doesn't make me a speaker designer. I'm  speaker user.

Mac




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