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Philip Soash

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Mic EIN
« on: April 08, 2006, 11:38:47 AM »

Someone want to explain this Spec.

Mic EIN  

Found on Pre Amp specs.

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Re: Mic EIN
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2006, 04:33:53 PM »

EIN (equivalent input noise) Output noise of a system or device referred to the input. Done by modeling the object as a noise-free device with an input noise generator equal to the output noise divided by the system or device gain. See the RaneNote Audio Specifications.  Just do google RaneNote and Mic Ein.  It seems to be one of those specs that a manufacturer can fudge depending on how it is measured. Twisted Evil Bandwith seems to be the key difference on how different companies come up with the figur. http://www.rane.com/note145.htmle.

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Re: Mic EIN
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2006, 04:48:20 PM »

Philip Soash wrote on Sat, 08 April 2006 08:38

Someone want to explain this Spec.

Mic EIN  

Found on Pre Amp specs.


"Equivalent input noise."  It's the noise added to an input signal by the preamp.

It should be measured with the preamp at maximum gain and a terminating resistor (between pins 2 and 3) whose value is equal to a microphone's impedance (usually 150 ohms).  The resistance value is important, since resistors are noisy.  A valid spec also includes the bandwidth over which the measurement was made, as well as the temperature (resistor noise varies with temperature).

The theoretical minimum EIN for a 150-ohm source impedance over a bandwidth of 20 kHz at room temperature, no weighting is -131 dBu.  (This number is a VOLTAGE, where 0 dBu = 0.775 volts.)  This theoretical number implies that the preamp itself is noiseless.  There are conversion functions that let you represent this number in terms of Noise Figure and nV/sqrt(Hz) but I don't recall them offhand.

EIN is probably one of those specs that you don't need to worry too much about, as it seems like everyone's preamps do -129 dBu EIN without too much trouble.

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Re: Mic EIN
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